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David B.

How do you know the text block was actually sewn and not just left glued by the binder?

God Bless,
David

Scott

Inquiring minds want to know: Where did you get your nice briefcase? What brand, etc.?

I left my last nice one on a train, with iPod, Monastic Diurnal, and a few other goodies. Ouch.

J. Mark Bertrand

David -- Thanks for the question. I just spent the last fifteen minutes pulling and prodding, and you know what? I think you may be right. I *assumed* it has been re-sewn because of the way the text block pinched together (which isn't something the compact thinline does out of the box, in spite of the adhesive binding), but no matter how deep I push, I can't find the stitching. So I take it back. I think this puppy was re-glued. I'm not going to push any farther or I might do some damage. :)

Scott -- The briefcase comes from Saddleback Leather (www.saddlebackleather.com). There are better photos of it online here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jmarkbertrand/sets/72157603786017843/

Denis

This really resonated with me: "Like a piece of field-grade equipment, a quality Bible should take abuse, build patina, and develop a craggy character over time."

My interest in high-end Bibles is durability & longevity, not primarily luxury (though that's an added bonus). I bought an Allan's because I wanted a Bible that I could use daily & lug back and forth from church without worrying about the thing falling apart after a couple years (my previous experience with Bibles).

However, I am increasingly finding that the idea of gold edges is actually contrary to this goal. While Smyth sewn bindings and quality leather add durability, gold edging seems so fragile (though only cosmetically).

So while I completely expect my Bible to age well, the gold will undoubtedly become more & more scarred looking as time marches on (a process that has already begun). It almost seems like no-edging would be a better alternative.

Sorry, just something that has been bugging me lately :)

Brian Fox

I love the bag! I wish I had an extra $495 or so. Maybe I should learn to work leather and bind books as a hobby. The Bible looks good, but I would start with a sewn binding, and I don't do red-letters.

Jacob Tallmon

Greetings sir(s). You have inspired a somewhat frenzied desire on my part. I now want to find the "perfect" bible. As you have all opined that such a beast does not, in fact exist, I initially determined to create it. Such endeavors generally fail in my head in a few hours, but this one has continued a bit. I am an NASB guy (not exclusively, but in this search at least). I want a single-column paragraph-format reasonably compact NASB. As Mr Bertrand has stated, he feels that "single column" and "compact" are diametrically opposed. I (quite respectfully) somewhat disagree. I think that if the text block is limited to text (or very few additional options) and the text is formatted in a modern paragraph style rather than the more space-consuming verse-by-verse format that it possible to take up only a small amount of extra space.

I did find the Thomas Nelson published "Classic Companion" bible, which measures (if my memory serves me) 8.5" x 6 " x 1". This is compact enough for my taste. The problem is that it is one of those "consumer grade" Bibles. The paper appears thin (contributing I'm sure to the 1" thickness), and the spine is glued.

I say all that to say this:

1.) have you ever, since this recent aformentioned escapade, had a glued binding ACTUALLY re-sewn? If so, were the results acceptable?

2.) Are any of you familiar with the Nelson Classic Companion (or a similarly formatted piece)? I will probably be purchasing one for the 27.00 amazon price, just to hold it in my hands.

Rod

Jacob,

I used to be an NASB fanatic buying most every format from every publisher that I could find and afford. Even reviewed a few for Lockman years ago. I had the Bible you describe when it was being published by World (which was bought out by Nelson a few years back). You won't find another NASB like it (SC, paragraphs). If that's what you want, I would buy one in a hurry as they are relatively scarce and maybe won't be kept in print. During the 90's I was very vocal with publishers about getting a paragraph format for the NASB update and even getting permission to build my own. These days, there are a few out there and initally I was ecstatic. But after using them for several years, I became a little disillusioned. The NASB was translated literally ( which is good!) but, in my opinion, was not translated to be used in a paragraph format. It is still my reference translation for the very literal translation, but not for purposes of reading. I would recommend before you go to the expense of having that Nelson rebound, read it for a while in that single column format. Also, I have also had a non-sewn Bible sewn. You will lose inside margin, and the difficulty will be losing it without the text creeping into the seam. My recommendation is to send it to the binder and ask their opinion on that particular Bible. Hope this is helpful to your perfect Bible quest. Many of us are still on that journey!

mike

Jacob a good way to see if a BIble or book ould be rebound is to place a pencil in the margin if there is room for the text it should be ok. This came from the binder I use for many Bible or book being resewn. Yet I do agree send it or take it to a binder to see.

Jacob Tallmon

Thanks to both of you! I will read it for a while and evaluate. I already ordered it from Amazon. I had never heard that about the pencil, neat trick.

Without this turning into a version vs version discussion, I am admittedly a bit of an "enthusiast" of the NASB. I like the literal translation, but would never go so far as to say that it is the ONLY version to use. I don't hesitate to pull a different version off the shelf on occasion. I have been meaning to poke around for a parallel NASB / Message bible. I think the contrast could be interesting. I also tend to enjoy my old AMG Key Word NASB study bible. Having the original languages available brings some of the "life" out of the translation in my opinion.

Thanks again for the comments. I will take both of your advice.

mike

Jacob a great place to order NAS update is from american Bible sales under their damage section. I have ordered many from them under that section and could not see any damage. I have seen the thin line or what ever they call it in that section and it is smythe sewn.

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