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May 05, 2008

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John Owlett

Whoopee!

My new Longprimer arrived in the mail from Glasgow to-day. And it's all I hoped it would be. The Highland Goatskin is, if anything, even softer than my Readers Edition ESV.

The larger page format mentioned on bibles-direct.co.uk seems to have gone into a larger type size: the margins are narrow. It is a slightly smaller Bible than the Readers Edition and (therefore?) the three ribbon markers are slightly narrower -- 5/16" rather than 3/8".

Those of you who do not follow bibles-direct.co.uk obsessively -- and who want to save a few quid on a Longprimer -- may be interested to know that a few copies of the previous printing (number 52) are available at £60 each.

Paul

Doesn't it bother you that words inserted by the translators are not italicized? It would me.

John Owlett

It doesn't bother me, Paul, though I can understand that others prefer to have the italics. I accept that any translation has to involve some interpretation; even choosing the English words for an Interlinear involves a small amount. And the KJV does very little: it's not only beautiful English, it is also a straightforward and unaffected translation of the text. So I trust the italicized words to be necessary.

My previous "best" KJV -- an Oxford-bound Brevier Clarendon from the 1960s -- has the italics, but I've never really noticed myself paying attention to them. So I expect to gain more from the extra two points in type size than I shall lose from the minor imprecision.

Wayne F.

John: Is there any room in the margins for notes or is it just impossible? I am wanting to put notes, chain references, etc in it.

Did you get the black or brown?

John Owlett

The margins are very narrow, Wayne.

The margins at the top and the outside edge are 9/32".

The inside edge is slightly wider, so that the text doesn't disappear into the binding, but is no more usable for note-taking.

The margin at the bottom is 1/2".

Since I have a brown ESV, I bought a black KJV.

Jonathan Ammon

I just bought the semi-yapp French Morocco Long Primer for my Dad. It's absolutely beautiful and perfectly readable. You may want to be aware that the French Morocco version does not have art gilt edges, they are straight gold, and though the text is perfect, you may have to squint to see the center references which are quite tiny.

Button Rodgers

Self pronouncing is just way too irritating. It really ruins the text. Somebody thought this was a good idea, but it isn't. It just creates a pause and actually makes it harder to read through the names.

bill

I agree with what you're saying Button, but it should be noted the Longprimer is only MILDLY self-pronouncing. Check out the original size pictures in Mark's review of the Brevier Blackface and you can see just how extreme self-pronouncing text can become, even breaking up words like Zion, Jacob, or David. Then again, the BB uses italics for the implied words, a feature that seems more reasonable. Along with red-letter text and even the center-column references themselves, it goes to show there really is no such thing as a generic KJV.

John

I am thankful for bible that have self-pronouncing text. They confirm that I have been pronouncing my name correctly.

lEON

Enjoy reading the reviews at this site. I have purchased a Cambridge Presentation and a R L Allan Long Primer. they are both good Bibles as far as quality, appearance, materials and the like.

But sadly I must say I like the Thomas Nelson Style 2005 better. It has MORE translation notes than both the Cambridge and the Allan as well as better/more cross references. I like cross references more than the chain so the Nelson and the Cambridge won out with me. Then the translation notes on the Nelson jsut blew the Cambridge away. Try looking up Psalms 7:16 and you will see a translation note for the word "pate" that neither Allan or Cambridge had. Without it I would have never known that pate meant the crown of the head! But if yo go by beauty then the RL Allan is the best of the all.
I guess the Bible that helps you to understand God's Word the best is really the best and that would have to be the Thomas Nelson Style 2006.
God bless you for all the good work you do and I have truly enjoyed readiNg your site - Have learned a lot!

James Thompson

I have been generally impressed with the cross-referencing in Allen's ESVs as well as Allen's Long Primer KJV and the Cambridge Presentation bible. I imagine any "printed" bible referencing scheme can be improved upon but that will lead to more bulk ultimately. When I want a very thorough treatment I generally rely on my bible software. But as you say, to each his/her own.... God bless!

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