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December 11, 2008

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Jeff Seympur

Mark, I purchased the Ruby 103 this past summer and I love it. One thing though; the pages in mine are a cream color, not white like yours, and it doesn't have the lined paper. Maybe it's an older edition. Wonderful little bible, though.

Winston Waldemayer III

Mark is reading my mind again. I went today on the R.L. Allan's site and bought both the crystal edition and the highland goatskin Ruby. Can't wait to get them! It was cool to see this review right after ordering them. Guess I chose wisely.

Winston

Anthony Miller

The Ruby was my first Allans edition, the Crystal the second. I even found a vintage Cambridge Crystal on eBay that has highly raised hubs on the spine. Both types are great bibles despite their small size. it is as if they invite you to take one along with you due to their handy size.

Tony

Jeff Seymour

Another anomaly I noticed on my Ruby is that it has two ribbons instead of one.

Evagelist Brian McClurg

WARNING the print in the Ruby will smear if your hands have the slightest amount of moisture. I was very disappointed when I wiped John 3:3 off the page. Hopefully they will remedy this with a better ink.

Winston Waldemayer III

Just an update. I did receive my Ruby edition and Crystal edition right around Christmas. I was actually floored by the Ruby. It was even better than I expected. What a great bible edition! The Crystal's type is small (actually, both are) but very clear. I was not overly impressed by the suppleness of the kid goatskin. The Ruby feels better to me. Both will serve their purpose as great travel and pocket editions. One thing is for certain, R.L. Allan & Sons always deliver. I have been completely satisfied with all my R.L. Allan purchases.

My Ruby came with one ribbon marker and while we are on the subject of ribbon markers, I wonder if anyone else is noticing what I have noticed... the ribbon markers on every cambridge I own and of course every zondervan I own looks like witches hair (frayed) even after only owning a Cambridge for a short time I noticed how easily the ribbon marker starts to fray.

On my R.L. Allan editions, not one single problem with frayed ribbon markers so far. I have owned my awesome RL Allan NIV Bold Reference Edition for almost a year now and it has become my daily reader but it's ribbon markers look like they did the day I took it out of the box. I don't keep it in the box just so you know. Anyone got any idea as to why RL Allan's hold up better?

In time, I will do my own review of my Ruby and Crystal editions on my site but I think Mark's pictures and review of these beauties is the best of all.

http://www.reigningimmortal.com

Kyle

@ Winston,

Have you noticed the "smear" problem (mentioned previously) with the ink on your edition of the ruby?

Thanks!

Drew Taylor

Kyle,

I had a smear problem with an ESV1 from R.L. Allan. Let them know. They sent me a new one.

Winston Waldemayer III

I will check it out. Not sure if it smears or not. I'll let you know.

http://www.reigningimmortal.com

Samual Stegall

Mark,
Wow... I have just discovered the world of R.L. Allen Bibles. It started while I was looking for a nice leather Cruden's Concordance. From there I found evagelicalbible.com and from there I discovered your blog. Since reading just about everything I could find on R.L. Allen bibles I just ordered an ESV1 in tan and the KJV ruby in highland goatskin that is reviewed here. I'm so excited that I can't wait to get them in. Thanks for a great site and for your reviews. My wife is already sorry i've found this site because the balances in my checking account suddenly dropped. Thanks again and God Bless.

Sam

Kenneth Dismukes

Winston, regarding the ribbons fraying. I used to have this problem with a number of Bibles. I found a solution that works. I tuck the rest of the ribbon a few pages behind the place where I am, so that none of it is exposed after I close the Bible. I haven't had any fraying problems since doing this.

Robert Lombardi

Other people have mentioned using something called "Fray Check" which is I suppose like a clear glue that binds the end of the ribbon to keep it form fraying. I never tried it but I'm considering purchasing some to take care of any ribbon fraying problems.

Winston Waldemayer III

Kyle,

It is confirmed, ink smears. It appears I didn't notice it at first because of the way I was handling the bible when I would read it. I then started holding the bible by putting my thumb on the page and as soon as I moved the thumb away, the ink smeared. I did some tests after discovering this and found that if your hands are clean and dry you should not have a problem but the oil from your hands seems to make it smear. Unfortunate. It seems such a perfect bible for me otherwise.

http://www.reigningimmortal.com

Winston Waldemayer III

My review of the Ruby Edition is up on my website. Please follow this link to it. My review of the Cambridge Crystal edition is not far behind.

http://www.reigningimmortal.com/bibles

Kyle

Thanks Winston!

Samual Stegall

I received my Ruby KJV edition today in the mail. I also received my ESV1 in British Tan. The Ruby is ultra nice. I checked to see if the ink smeared and fortunately it has not yet. I noticed mine came with two ribbon markers and it didn't have any lined paper at the back. Overall i'm super pleased with the Bible and cannot wait to start using it. I also love the ESV1 but my favorite translation is the KJV so the Ruby is the crown jewel of the day.

PWilly

Hi there please could you point me to somewhere that i could buy a new bible, i currently have an old Eyre and Spottiswoode "The Kings Printer" untearable yapp covered King James Version around 7" by 4.5". im looking to get the same bible again please.

Regards,
Paul

Robert

Well I bought me one and it came toute de suite from evangelical. It arrived yesterday.

Ok, let me tell you, you are struck by just how compact this thing is, and then by the miniscule font. I'm like, "Ok, why did I buy this thing again? I'm such a poltroon!" But as I started reading out of it last night I really warmed up to it. Yes, the script is miniscule, but with a good light or daylight you can manage just fine. It's really neat, actually. The yappage is great. This little gem does just beg you to take it along where you planned on going this afternoon, too. I'm glad I bought it.

Thankfully, my version had no problem with smearing, at least not yet, and mine has both markers and it includes the lined pages in the back.

I like it so much, I am eyeballing with no small amount of covetousness the Long Primer and the Clarendon editions online today---though someone please intervene at this point because I can't afford to keep this up!

Well done, Allan!

Robert

Pastor4all

At first, I was a little 'put out' by the smallness of the font in the KJV Ruby. And it 'IS' small. On the other hand, the full-yapp goatskin cover is absolutely superb! Simply a delight to look at and hold in the hand. Mine came with only 1 ribbon. It also came with the blank lined pages, 8 pages of maps, a dictionary of proper names, and a concordance. As I said, at first, the only thing I really liked was the Allan full-yapp goatskin cover. But as I spent more time with this Baby, I must say it has really grown on me. It's compactness is nice in that it fits perfectly in one of the compartments in my lap-top carrying case. This is a great Bible for traveling, when making hospital visits, and pastoral calls. I do wish the font could be just a little bit larger. But then it wouldn't be as compact as it is.

As I said, at first I was overall less than pleased with the Ruby (especially the smallness of the font). But now that I've had it for a few months, it truly has grown on me and I carry it with me where ever I take my lap-top. Bottom line: If you have poor vision, best to pass on this one. But if you can read small print, this Bible is worth purchasing simply for the quality of the full-yapp goatskin leather.

I've had no problem with the 'smearing' that others have mentioned. And the yellow highlighter I use (GTL Zebra-Zebrite Bible highlighter) does not bleed through at all--and caused no smearing of the text. Only one thing kind of bugs me: On the front Cover emblazoned in gold it says:
HOLY BIBLE
and
CONCORDANCE

I wish it only and simply said "HOLY BIBLE". Why they add "and concordance" is beyond me. I mean, are the very limited concordances in most Bible's really a selling point that needs to be emblazoned on the front cover? Not a big deal. Just questioning the rationale for drawing attention to a minimal concordance. But I'm glad I bought this baby, and look forward to reading it for many years to come. And if you are a bibliophile Bible collector, this is a "must" for your collection.

David Farlow

A rare Slimline (slimmer than a pitt minion) edition of an Oxford Ruby Reference bible is now on ebay... Also lays flat.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130317722606

Rick Kalman

I just ordered mine a little over a week ago, I am waiting in anticipation. I have the Allen Longprimer with full yapps and love it. I also have a goatskin NKJV and ESV Pitt Minion from Cambridge and love those as well. I hope to get it today, I will update the blog after.

Jim Stancliff

It was a pleasure to find this site. My family has been buying R.L. Allan bibles for three generations. Quality bibles used to be sold in some Bible book stores. Sure can't find them now. I have a 7C that I expect to be using for the rest of my life, if I don't lose it. If the house was burning down, it would be one of the few things I would grab. I love to see well worn bibles that are obviously an important part of peoples' lives. These bibles are beyond a book. Usually, a book is read once then placed on a shelf as a good memory. The people is fresh and new every time you read a passage over.

Rachel

I came across this bible on a friend's table the other day, and, after holding it for a few seconds, decided this was the one. I've been searching for quite a while (checking out all the black books I come across at every study for the last few months) but never came across the right size, feel, and font. But the Ruby is beautiful.

However, I find myself hesitating on one point. I have become quite accustomed to the red-letter bible that I have been using for the last 10 years. As a result of this, I haven't yet ordered the bible as I search for a version as close as possible to the Ruby--save that it includes red letters. I'm not sure that it exists, but I wonder: any suggestions?

StephenD.

I purchased a Thumb-Indexed Ruby from Allan's (only semi-yapp) The only gripe I have is that the Thumb-Index cuttings are a little rugged, and because of the way its bound, it doesn't create a consistent oval shape on the thumb space. Otherwise, this is a superbly bound Bible. The leather is thick and supple, and it comes packed with a decent concordance (which also helps the Bible to lay flat)

No problems with smearing on this one!

Rob

It was mentioned in Mark's review that there is a variation in print impression. Do Allan's Oxford Ruby Bibles usually have darker print on the text located at the top and bottom of the page? Does this vary from page to page?

Any information would be helpful. Thanks!

Doug Willis

I finally ordered my first R.L. Allan bible today - the 103 "Ruby". I originally wanted a black 53 "Longprimer", but personal budget restraints prevailed. I look forward to sharing my impressions of this beautiful little bible - thanks, Mark, for a lot of good information on this website and for pointing me to R.L. Allan & Sons!

C. M. Sheffield

Mark,

Your reviews are a great service to guys like myself. One thing that I would find helpful though is if in some of your pictures (especially with a bible like the Ruby) you could get a shot with your hand on the open page so as to give us some idea and gage of the size. If not your hand, then perhaps a quarter (coin) or dollar bill. Just a suggestion. Thanks for your remarkable website and the love of Bibles and books that produced it!

bill

CMS +1. Hands aren't uniformly sized. A dollar bill for smaller bibles and a ruler for larger volumes sounds like a great scale to use.

Conrad Carter

Based on this review I picked up a Ruby, black, full yapp in highland goatskin for my wife. It is about a year old now, well used and I must say that it is a very, very nice Bible. The text is easily read, the paper is interestingly thicker than the Allan 5 or 6c and exhibits minimal ghosting while the size lends itself to the hand very nicely. I find myself preferring to pick it up as it is easy to leaf through and easy to read. Well done, no regrets.

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