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DavidT

Thank you for another excellent review and some beautiful photos. I agree with your assessment of the ESV1 completely. I have the tan, and I am very happy with it. Whenever I pick it up I am struck anew with the impression of QUALITY. Allan's sets a beautiful frame for God's word, and enhances the experience of reading it.
Blessings
Dave

Andrew

You didn't mention my favourite feature of the Allan ESVs: the fact that since the text blocks are from Collins, it uses anglicized spellings. Being from Canada, I find it much less distracting to read Bibles that do this.

Jordan

I stumbled onto this website a few weeks ago, and I received my Allan ESV1 in black about a week ago. All I can say is WOW! I was amazed at the quality of this bible when I opened it and flipped through the beautiful pages. I am so pleased with this bible and the quality that Allan puts out. I am really excited about the new offerings they will be bringing out later in the year. I am now a big fan of anything that Allan releases! Thanks Mark!!!

Jeff Seymour

Mark...Have anxiously awaited your review of this bible ever since I recieved mine in October. Glad you waited. The brown is as impressive in its own way as the black and the tan. I have the black and it has the course grain as yours does, except the long lines in the grain on mine run the length of the bible instead of across as it seems they do on yours. Just another beautiful anomoly of natural skins. Appreciate the blog and all of the varied viewpoints expressed herein. Keep up the excellent work.

Scott

Mark, thanks. Just a great review that highlights the magnificent work Allan does and explains very well the process Allan follows. And I will second your comment,"We can be grateful our friends in Glasgow are putting so much effort into these editions". You really can't put it better than that. They (Allan) really are outstanding and a pleasure to work with.

Mike

Mark

Great pictures...thanks for posting them. I would like to say that I did get my ESV1 Black, its beautiful, smells great, the ribbons are perfect size. The print is bold and clean...very refreshing compared to the inexpensive bibles. But sadly to say...I am returning the bible tomorrow, what I didn't like, was almost everything I just mention...it too NICE!! Seriously, the distraction from the red lined edging and the verse layout...I don't care for the verses placed within the text, what I am used to seeing is the verses having there own paragraph. Its easier for me to find the verses that way during studying time. So I am off to purchase a new bible again, sadly the only version that is available in the style is the King James, so I suppose this is my only choose.

Mike

AJ Bergren

Mr. Bertrand

I've read many of your reviews in the past year or so and I have to say this review gave me the most smiles. I especially liked the two "yoga" pictures. The picture where all three are stacked on top of each other is so funny!

Oh and the text content of this review was very informative and witty (as usual) to. :)

Andrew in Champlin, MN

Michael French

Great comments and great bibles by R.L. Allan. My only desire is for larger print editions of the Allan bibles offered. The print in the Cambridge and Oxford wide margin bibles is so small that any lengthy study is out of the question for me. The print in the Allan longprimer is better in my opinion, but as the reader may know the King James italics have been removed and placed in regular type (done by Oxford in the book block). I want the italics myself since they are there for a reason. If the reader can study with the smaller type in the Allan bibles then Allan is the way to go! I hope that Allan will offer a larger print edition soon!

AJ Bergren

Mr. French

Good news on the wish larger print Allan Bile front!

I don't think it's a secret so I'm going to relay this.

Nichols Gray at R.L. Allan informed me a few days ago via email that:
"We are going to introduce a new larger size ESV later this year to be called the Readers Edition". Nicholas also commented: "The font size will be 10.5pt rather than the normal 9.5pt and the page size will be 9 x 6 1/4 inches."

Isn't this cool?!! I can't wait to see it!

Andrew

AJ Bergren

Sorry about the typos in my last comment! I meant "Nicholas" and "Bible" (not "Bile"). :)

Martin Clay

Great review. Thanks for your hard work on this.

I love my ESV1T - every day it is a joy to pick it up and read the Word of God.
As an Englishman, a secondary but significant joy is also that all of the words are spelled correctly!

Is it also British to say you wait a month for a Bertrand review and then three come along at once :) Or does that joke apply across the Atlantic as well.

Kathy

Andrew, that's interesting news about the new Allan ESV. The dimensions will make this similar in size to the Cambridge NIV single column Bible. I wonder if it will be a single or double column typeset; did Mr Grey give any indication?

AJ Bergren

Kathy,

No, Mr. Grey did not comment on what column format this future "Readers Edition" Bible will have. Mr. Grey at R.L. Allan and Sons was just replying to my comment that I think a full yapp ESV Highland goatskin would be a good idea. I've been coveting the Allan Longprimer KJV full yapp because if its full yapp cover and its easy to read font. :)

Andrew

Tim Greer

That is great news! The newly announced Allan's is exactly the dimensions I love in a Bible. Currently I'm stuck with the ESV thinline from Crossway (I've already worn out two -- it doesn't take long). I love the dimensions, especially when paired with a moleskine, but it has all the typical problems -- paper too thin, imprint too light, cover too stiff, etc. Sign me up for the ESV RL Allan Reader's Bible!

David

I'm curious if this "Reader's Version" is one in the same with the new and improved classic reference ESV coming out around May/June that evangelicalbible.com has mentioned. Maybe it's an additional version. It'll be interesting to see. I wish I knew the details now. I've been considering that ESV1r limited edition but can't pull the trigger on that without knowing what this new version might be like.

Mike

Do we know if the new RL ESV Readers edition will be a wide margin, and if so will it be the Crossway format or will it be versed paragraphs? Is there an expected release date?

thanks
mike

AJ Bergren

Mike,

All I know is what I posted above on March 19th at 7:12pm (typos and all). I'd suggest you email R.L. Allan (rlallan@btinternet.com) to see if they will reveal any more details to you. If they do reveal more details, please share (if it's ok). :)

MIchael French

Thanks for the update and the good news about a larger print Allan ESV. I hope that a reader's edition is not a text only bible--I'm a little concerned about that. I do like a reference bible that has center column references. If anyone obtains further details I would certainly be interested in finding out more about this reader's edition.

Graeme C

The brown ESV looks good enough to eat, though I recently received my new brown Cambridge Pitt-Minion ESV which I am very happy with.

I am eargerly awaiting some photos of the new Allan 6C Oxford Brevier Clarendon Ref (KJV) Highland Goatskin-Chocolate.
Allan says this will be using the same goatskin cover.

Can't wait :)

A. J. Genco

Mark,

I agree with you on the Tan -- and I just ordered one. Thanks for doing these reviews.

In my email correspondence with Nicholas Gray I asked if Allan's had any plans for a single column reference edition and he replied: "I've asked Crossway if we can work with them on a single column edition and I await their response."

We can only hope ...

AJ Bergren

I have one reservation on the ESV1 Brown: The multicolored ribbons. I know, many people like the three different colors and it's obviously not hurting the ESV1BR sales but they seem distracting to my eyes.

I want to enjoy the rich chocolate brown color of the ESV1BR but my eyes always end up focusing on those three different colored ribbons. I understand the reasons for the three different colors but it seems just a touch (dare I say).....gimicky.

After drooling over the many pictures of the delicious cover of new Allan 20BR (dark brown with brown ribbons) at evangelicalbible.com....I felt myself moved me to write this response.

Scott

I have to say I love the colored ribbons on my ESV1BR. If they do the same combo on the new ESV later this year I'll be first in line for that one too. I'd like to see a black ESV with say a black, dark gray, dark blue ribbon combo. I'd probably go traditional black if Allan did something like that this year. Needless to say, it is a great time to be looking for great Bibles.

Chris

Can someone shed some light on this: I am torn between the Tan and Chocolate Brown. Lots of photos out there, but I am wondering if the Tan is something akin to the color of a good basketball, if that makes sense. I originally thought it to be a rather light brown, but now I am not so sure. I know the choice is good either way.

Kathy

Chris, I have the tan ESV and I love it. The pictures in the above review are very accurate as to color-at least on my monitor. You could say it is in the same color family as a basketball; British tan is what I would call it. Hope that helps!

Slush Turtle

These are amazing. Any idea if there is a wide margin in the future?

J A Byrd

I purchased an ESV2 from Allan last year, then purchased a Pitt Minion this fall. I was disappointed at the paper quality in the Allan and wish it were more in line with the paper of my Cambridge. I realize about the waves in the pages, but I'm talking more about the actual texture and finish of the paper. I don't really know how to describe the difference. I suppose the paper in the Allan just appears dull and lifeless compared to the paper of the Cambridge. How do these new reprints stack up beside the paper that Cambridge uses?

David H.

I personally LOVE the paper in the Allan ESV's. I too thought the matte finish looked dull and lifeless when I initially saw it, but then I realized something. Overhead lighting does not reflect off the paper as much as some other paper I've seen out there, so eye strain seems to be reduced.

Brendan Devitt

Mark, superb, thorough review - thank you. One area I feel publishers need to improve on is with regard to font. I can't say that the ESV/NRSV/TNIV et. al. are aesthetically pleasing in this connection. They lack the kind of visual majesty associated with older editions of the KJV, for instance. Font is everything as far as I am concerned.

AJ Bergren

J A Byrd,

I also bought an Allan ESV2 Bible last year (November). The wavy and stiff pages were a disappointment. I found it hard to ignore the bumpy texture of paper of the ESV2 as I like to caress my pages from time to time (weird, I know). Additionally, the ESV2's stiff pages made it difficult for me to quickly find the passage I was looking for (especially when leading in church) and that wore on my patience.

** So, I decided to recently purchase an ESV1 Black direct from Allan's site and I am very happy to report the new Allan ESV1's (the latest/3rd print) paper is excellent! The ESV1 paper is a night and day difference from my ESV2. The ESV1 paper is smooth, flawless, turn with easy and grace. The font also seems more black on my new ESV1 compared to my ESV2.

The ESV1 is so much an improvement over the (first print) of the ESV2.

Paul

A hint release on the new 'Reader's Edition.'
Original text block-not the classic reference text.
Largest ESV typeface (10.5) except for the ESV Large Print.
Widest Margins save the "Wide Margin" Bibles..ok enough for now.

Paul
evangelicalbible.com

Cicero

Thanks Paul!

Well, I was planning to save up for an ESV1, but I think I'll hold off until this "reader's edition" comes along. Wow, this anticipation is like waiting for the ESV Study Bible or the Pitt Minion ESV to all over again. This is very exciting!

Cicero

I would love the binding of an ESV1, but the hard part for me would be getting along with the anglicized spelling.

David H.

Paul.... not even a hint at an estimated release date????? Alright, I'll be patient, I suppose.

Robert Lombardi

Here's what I was told by Nicholas at R L Allan"

"You may like to know that we plan to introduce a 'double width margin' Readers Edition of our reference ESV with type10% larger than the regular size in the Fall."

Paul

Having been in the business for a while-I must say that it is dangerous to predict publishing times with any degree of precision. I think "Fall" is a good word here. Another piece of info. in regards to the Bible-we will have the best Bible paper on the market. This has been consistently the most important feature on all of our surveys. Actually we have acquired a Bible paper that is essentially coated to allow for non bleed through marking. I can confidently state that the 'reader's edition' will be the the best ESV available in every category-text block and binding.

Blessings.

Scott

Great, thanks for the update, Paul. I would say "I can't wait" but it wont be to hard waiting until then while I enjoy my ESV1BR.:-)

AJ Bergren

Cicero,

The Allan "anglicized spelling" has never bothered me. I thought it would but it doesn't. I actually never even notice these words in my daily reading.

I have to actually try to find anglicized words, otherwise I don't see them. Sometimes I have to go at least 3 pages into any area to even find one anglicized spelled word (when I'm trying to find one).

Michael

Does anyone know where Allan gets their new, coated paper? For me, the quality of the bible paper is the most important characteristic of bibles. Papers that "show through" and "bleed ink" just ruin the most expensive bibles. I think that the special French coated paper used in the NASB In Touch wide-margin bible is about the best you can get. The fact that the In Touch wide margin bible is printed without any references is disappointing for me, but it is still a great choice bound in calfskin. Does anyone else have the In Touch wide margin calfskin bible, and what do they think of it? Also, does anyone have information on where one can purchase high quality bible paper?

Mike

I emailed Nicholas Gray about the text and layout...his response:

"The Allan ESV Readers Edition will be exactly the same text lay out as our standard ESV, only 10% larger and with wider margins."

Kind regards
Nicholas Gray

So for all those, including myself, that was hoping for a verse-by-verse layout, will be disappointed. The wider margins will be nice though...I would hope for translation that is not paragraphed, I suppose that is done for reading purposes. Nevertheless If you can't beat them, join them. I suppose I would rather have larger print an wider margin.

I shall wait with much anticipation for the release of the new RL readers addition.

Mike

Cicero

To get an idea of the size of the "Reader's Edition" pages (9" x 6.25"):
The pages are .5" taller (lengthwise) and .5" narrower (width) than the pages in a Cambridge Wide-Margin Bible.

I think the best part about this new Reader's Edition (other than the binding) will be the original type. I'm very much anticipating this; my Pitt-Minion will keep me until then.

Cicero

Does anyone know the approximate price range of this upcoming "reader's edition"?

Robert Lombardi

"Does anyone else have the In Touch wide margin calfskin bible"

Yes, I have it. It seems like a very well made Bible. Unfortunately I haven't taken much notes in it. I have added some of my own references here and there and it seems to hold up fine. The paper is nice, but as for wide margin goes, I also have the Oxford Breviere Clarendon Wide Margin and that's simply amazing in terms of paper, font, etc. But it's also very big. Too big to be carying around Church. But before I received the Allan LongPrimer and Allan ESV, I used to carry the In Touch NASB around with me everywhere. I wish I had the sense to write in it more, but I only recently had the desire to take notes in my Bible. For several years, I didn't want to write in any of my Bibles. That's changed now.

Also, I use the Micron pens that are meant not to bleed, so I think if you use those pens, you might have more success across a wider variety of Bibles.

Michael

With respect to the Oxford Breviere Clarendon Wide Margin Bible are you referring to the KJV with ISBN: 0191179515? If so, that is a great bible but the print is small compared to the NASB In Touch bible--do you also think so?

Bill Krewson

Nicholas emailed me this info:


The ESVR style will be the same as ESV1 but 10% bigger type and a wider margin.
This will be a fresh printing to a new page size.
The layout is in paragraph format with verses.
The ESVR range will have cross references. We expect to release it about October.

Robert Lombardi

Here's the Oxford I'm referring to.
http://evangelicalbible.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=109_149&products_id=498

I didn't even notice the print to be small. It's really an awesome font and seems to be extremely readable. It's actually rated more readable than the Cambridge Wide Margin, but I would say it's just as readable as the NASB. I think the font of the Oxford is more pleasing to the eye than the In Touch NASB.

Also, In terms of usable margin space, I think the Oxford might be unrivaled. It has an incredible amount of margin space for notes and lined paper in the back for more notes.

Check out this comparison.
http://evangelicalbible.com/recommend.htm

Marvin

There not many crafts in the stratum of hand book binding, which is considered one of the most difficult crafts in the world. Buyers expecting unflawed perfection should look to their local book outlet for laser duplicated blocks and glued bindings. The irregular funk congruent with the Queen’s bookbinders art and the occasional wavy edge, wrinkled page, dog-ear or smudge denoting the traditional offset process is a glorious blessing that may soon be consigned to the past as inferior rank in favor of Chinese machine made books.

mike smith

Robert, I also have and have had the IN TOUCH CALFSKIN BIBLE this was my first Bible I bought at that quality. Since then I have bought many top of the line ESV, NLT, NIV, (most from Allans and some from crossway pub. Like you it has taken me many attempts to write in any of the Calfskin editions ,I do and have always written note, underlineing, etc in several cheaper edition. I have now decided to start with one wide margin Bibles next with gathered notes from all my older Bibles and my notes.

Cicero

Nicolas from R.L. Allan's replied to me in an email that the price of the ESV Reader's Edition (ESVR) will be around ₤125/$195.

Scott

Cicero, any indication of when it will be available? Thanks.

gandmduggan@optusnet.com.au

I've just got an email back from Nicholas Gray at Allan's in response to a request for a single column ESV. Apparently the new readers edition will be two column. Sigh.

Rich

Sigh, indeed. I, too, was hoping for a single column ESV from Allan's. However, with the enlarged font, wider margins and top-of-the-line bible paper I will be sure to pre-order this wonderful new edition. It will be interesting to learn what cover material and colors will be offered.

Pastor4all

I just received my Allan ESV-1 in black highland goatskin. FINALLY, I now have the ESV that I have been looking for ever since the ESV came on the scene. This Bible is fantastic! Just holding it in the hand, the smell of the leather, the beautiful way in which the art-gilt edges contrast with the gold-etched/black semi-yap leather is an aesthetic experience in and of itself. The print quality is excellent--with a clear and bold text that is easy to read for these 50+ year old eyes. There IS some bleed-through from the text on the other side of the page. But I do not find it distracting at all. I'm just really impressed by the craftsmanship that has gone into this Bible. I am "sold" on the R.L. Allan company. There is NO doubt that in terms of quality binding--Allan's produces the very best. Expensive? Yes. But in the long run I believe one will end up SAVING money. I have gone through numerous ESV's produced by Crossway. If I had known about Allan's highland goatskin ESV 1 (and if it had been produced in 2001) I would have saved myself hundreds of dollars. So in the end, it is actually more economical to purchase a high-quality Allan ESV-1 than to continually buy a cheaper ESV each year or two--especially if you are a heavy Bible reader.

My Bible came with 3 ribbons. I wish this Bible contained a Bible reading plan--but alas, it doesn't. The 9 maps are of good quality. The concordance? Well, it's typically brief. And it would be nice if it included a Bible dictionary. But be that as it may, this is the ESV that I have been looking for ever since it came into production in 2001.

Also, being a pastor, this Bible is very comfortable in the hand. Indeed, I would say it is the 'ideal' size. For ESV lovers, your search for a truly "high-quality" ESV is over. I believe you will be more than pleased with the Allan highland goatskin ESV-1. I give it a 5 star rating.

Pastor4all

Mark, I just want to say that I really appreciate the excellent Bible reviews that you provide. The pictures simply reveal that you are a man who "goes-the-extra-mile" to provide informative and high-quality reviews. Keep up the great work. You are a blessing to many.

Cicero

Well, the R.L. Allan website says that "A further limited edition will be available in September." This may or may not be referring to the Reader's Edition.

Charles

I feel that the inside of the bible is more important than the outside. Don't get me wrong I love the covers of these bibles, but when buying I feel that the inside should be on view. And why no red letter edition?

I would hate to have a bible so good to hold but not good to read.

Fernando Villegas

Charles,

You'll notice there are several pictures in this review that show the inside of the Bible. If you click on the picture, you will get a larger view to help you get some idea of features such as how dark the font is, how much bleed through there is, etc. Obviously, pictures are not always as good as seeing it directly, but Mark usually does a pretty good job on his reviews of showing the inside of the Bibles. I agree with you--readability is probably the top feature I look for when deciding what Bible to buy.

As for why no red letter edition: There's a pretty good post on that issue back in March that talks about why many of us here prefer black letter to red letter. The gist of the argument is that a) black letter tends to be more readable than red, and b) putting Christ's words in red can lead to the impression that his words are more "inspired" than the rest of the Bible.

Incidentally, my experience is that red letter Bibles seem to be more for the American market. All the Spanish Bibles that I've bought here in the US are red letter; all the Spanish Bibles that I've bought either in Mexico or that are imported from Mexico are black letter. I've heard that that is the same in Great Britain as well. Since Allan's uses text blocks from a British publisher, that's probably the simple reason for why they have no red letter editions.

Cesar Rodriguez

Fernando,

What kind of Spanish bibles have you imported from Mexico? What edition are they and are they better than the Spanish bibles we're offered here in the U.S.? Tell me, I'm interested to know. I've spent several hours over the years looking for a quality Spanish bible. Finally I got tired of looking and because I like the block and paper of my old Spanish Scofield, I recently took it in to get rebound from a book binder here in CA.

George

I just received my second Allan's ESV1T to compliment my 1 year old black one. One glaring difference is the inside of the tan covers appear and feel much stiifer, almost bonded leather and not the soft luxurious black inside leather of my old bible. This makes the covers not as pliable and soft. Any feedback would be great. Blessings.

Fernando Villegas

Cesar,

The two Bibles from Mexico that I have are from Sociedades Biblicas Unidas. One is a pocket size Bible I bought at a bookstore here in Texas. The binding is imitation, but it is sewn. I use it to make pastoral visits. The other one I bought in Mexico for about US$30 when I was there last November. It's a thinline bound by Abba Bibles. I'm not sure if it's real leather or not, but it opens flat and feels VERY FLEXIBLE. I use this one mainly for preaching. And they're both black letter editions.

My own search for a quality Spanish Bible has led me currently to Leatherbibles.com. They're rebinding Holman Publisher's 1960 Reina Valera Special Reference Edition Bible (red letter, unfortunately). I'm about a month into their projected "4 to 6 month wait" (AAAARRRGGGHHH!) I'll let y'all know how that turns out.

Cesar Rodriguez

Thank you for the info. Fernando. Asociacion Biblica Internacional from Texas make a very nice bible too but Reina Valera 1909. I have a couple of them but the Spanish is a little archaic for me. I look forward to hear how your project turns out.

Joe P

Just got my Tan ESV Tan today and it is absolutely gorgeous!I had originally ordered a Premium Calfskin Thinline by Crossway only to return it because it wasn't what I had hoped for. But this one is....

Knight

Question about the "Bleedthrough." (That being the amount that the test on the opposite page is visible on the viewing page.)

How does this compare to Crossway's Classic Reference?

I have found that the Classic Reference is quite acceptable in this area. If Allan's is equal to or better than this then that would be excellent. Some of the pictures I have seen both here and at Evangelical Bible make me a bit concerned about this but pictures can only tell so much. I am hoping that someone has, or has seen, a copy of each side by side and can give me some first hand info.

Thanks.

Joanne

In answer to the question about the bleedthrough, here is my opinion. I received the tan Allan ESV1 a couple months ago, and sadly, ended up returning it. To me the bleedthrough was significant, far more than the Classic Reference from Crossway. I ended up getting the Cordovan Premium Calfskin Classic Reference, which is a beautiful Bible, and in my opinion, far more readable. I still may end up getting the Allan Reader's Edition ESV, which comes out this fall, in a larger font (10.5 I believe.)

Aaron Friedman

I received the Allan ESV1T today. I have been looking for a replacement Bible to replace an old NASB that is falling apart and have tested 3 different Bibles; none of which were what I was looking for. I'm glad to say that I've finally found the one that lives up to what I'm looking for and will hopefully last for many years. I had never heard of RL Allan until finding your site a few weeks ago. I'm glad I did because I've never seen such quality in a Bible.

Hopefully you are earning kickbacks for recommending their products so heartily!!

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Question about the tan.

How accurate are the pictures here? Is the leather more orange or brown? The pictures I have seen range from more orange to light brown (tan). I would prefer it to be more tan than orange.

I have been saving up for an Allan Bible for awhile now and sure enough, just as I get close to having the cash, the Black and Brown are sold out at evangelicalbible leaving only the Tan. Before I take the risk and buy it I am hoping to get a little feedback. (That or I wait until next March...)

mike smith

Brian please e-mail me at bellwood3@verizon.net. I can give you a good discription I know where 1 black edition can be found.

Ray

Pulled the trigger on the Tan ESV1 after reading your review. Actually ordered the last one of the 2nd printing. Received it this week and the pictures online don't do it justice. I absolutely LOVE this Bible. Thought I wanted the chocolate brown but didn't want to wait until the spring. Sure glad I read your review and how much you appreciate the tan. Thanks! Convinced me to take the risk. Sure glad I did! Best Bible I have ever owned. Been using the Cordovan Thinline for 5 years as my primary Bible for preaching and general use. That's about to change!

Mikey

Anyone know if there are any more ESV1's out there? (If not I'll hibernate 'til March next year)

mike smith

Mikey e-mail me as above. Mike smith

mike smith

MIkey MY e-mail is bellwood3@verizon.net I have a copy for sale.

AB

If anyone is looking to get an ESV1 black with blue ribbons, please email me at barringer_a@hotmail.com. I am looking to sell mine - it is new, only used a couple of times for light reading.

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Dana Watson

I just lost one of these in the chocolate brown to a guy on Ebay! I talked to a seller in UK who listed it, but it didn't sell. I contacted him about it, he agreed to relist it, we decided on a price through email, he relisted at that price, and someone else swooped in and got my deal! There is a five hour difference between UK and Central Standard time, so I was asleep when it happened. I'm sick about it. I have looked for a LONG time for the chocolate brown. And now... the search continues.

Brian Miller

In lieu of the upcoming release of the ESV1 I asked RL Allan some questions and one reply I found very interesting, here is the exchange...

***
Me: Do you know at this time if there will be anything different with the upcoming ESV1 from the previous run?

RL Allan: As far as I know it will be a straight re-run of the previous edition. We may tweak the page size and the yapp width slightly if the sheets will allow.

Me: when you say, "tweak the page and the yapp width slightly if the sheets will allow", would that be to make the page a little larger, that is, a little more room in the margins? I realize you are not saying this will be done in fact, but rather possible.

RL Allan: Yes, that's right. I've asked our binder to see if we can open up the margins more and we may then increase the cover size slightly too.
***

Clearly this isn't a guarantee, but it would be great if they added a little more margin to the ESV1. Kudos to Allan for continuing to tweak for the better; now, the paper... :)

Knight

It would be better if they made the paper more opaque. This is the only thing stopping me from getting an Alan Bible. I have the ESV1 for about 2 weeks and could not stand the bleed-through.

Brian Miller

I have to agree with you Knight, unfortunately. My older ESV1 has less bleed through than what I saw in the ESVR, and I am told the (newer) ESV1 uses the same paper. I'd really like to own the ESVR or new ESV1, but until they deal with the ghosting in the paper I will refrain.

Brandon Elder

I ordered mine last night. I have waited a LONG time. I can't wait to open that box of chocolate brown goatskin goodness.

Matt

Received my ESV1BR today, i ordered it July of 2009. Officially the longest i have ever waited for a book, but well worth it, a beautiful Bible. My Pitt Minion will get a little shelf time now. Great paper and binding.
Matt

Brandon Elder

It is here!!My very own ESV1. And it is AWESOME! So comfortable, well made, and gorgeous! It is everything I expected. I look forward to a lifetime of studying God's word within it's chocolaty goatskin flaps of luxury. This bible is what dreams are made of when one dreams of a good bible. PERFECTLY sized. Small enough to be carried comforably, yet large enough to read with ease. Mark, thanks for all the great reviews and education on fine bibles. It is much appreciated. I'm a happy man.

David

The paper is the problem for me. It's a beautify Bible and I love it. Except, I don't read it because weak opacity. If good quality paper were put in this Bible, it would be the best on the planet. It's frustrating to have such a nice Bible, and be annoyed at reading it on account of the paper chosen to put in it.

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  • J. Mark Bertrand is the author of Back on Murder, Pattern of Wounds, and the forthcoming Nothing to Hide, crime novels featuring Houston homicide detective Roland March. He has an MFA in Creative Writing from the University of Houston and lived in the city for fifteen years. After one hurricane too many, he and his wife moved to South Dakota. Mark has been arrested for a crime he didn't commit, was the foreman of a hung jury in Houston, and after relocating served on the jury that acquitted Vinnie Jones of assault. In 1972, he won an honorable mention in a child modeling contest, but pursued writing instead.

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