Trinitarian Bible Society KJV (Various)

If you've ever ordered from the Trinitarian Bible Society, you'll know what I'm talking about. There's a feeling you get, a blend of guilt and excitement, like you've just gotten away with something very fun but very bad. It's the price that does it. Or to be more precise, the ratio of price to value. You're used to paying more and getting less. 
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In a lot of ways, a Bible society that still clings to the King James Version in 2009 seems like an anachronism. And the TBS doesn't just cling, it grips tightly, giving no sign of letting go. The result is rather interesting: a society committed to spreading the Word of God, but likewise committed to quality. When I think of modern outreach organizations, "quality" isn't the first word that comes to mind. Dissemination is everything, getting the Bible into people's hands, and silly things like sewn bindings and leather covers and gilt edges don't factor into it. But with the TBS, they still do, which is why, if you like the King James Version, you should be grateful.

SOME HISTORY
I found my first TBS Bible in a Dublin cathedral bookstore. It was the calfskin-bound Pitt Minion pictured here, back in the days before Cambridge revived the setting. I assumed it was some kind of ancient artifact, left over from happier days, but then I returned home and did some research, discovering not only that the TBS still existed, but that it was cranking out Cambridge and Oxford style editions of the KJV in quality calfskin.

So what did I do? I stocked up.

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Above, from top to bottom: the Royal Ruby, the New Brevier, the Pitt Minion, 
and the Textus Receptus, all bound in calfskin except the Ruby, printed on India paper, 
with art-gilt edges and (except for the TR) with two ribbon markers.

With the exception of the Royal Ruby, all of my TBS leather editions are bound in deeply grained, firm but not stiff calfskin. The Ruby, bound in French Morocco, has a less pronounced grain and is a bit more flexible than the others. It also includes the Metrical Psalms (more about that later). The quality of each is exceptional. The prices, however, weren't. I don't think any of them cost more than $50. 

Of the editions pictured, the only one I can still locate on the Trinitarian Bible Society website is the Pitt Minion, which goes for $56.40 now. There are comparably sized editions in calfskin.

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Above: The Royal Ruby is the most flexible of the bunch.
The Royal Ruby is bound in French Morocco leather with vinyl lining, with semi-yapp cover and art-gilt edges. It includes a word list to help with the KJV's unfamiliar English, a reading plan, and the book of Psalms in meter. Though it measures about 4 x 6, the type is legible and there are two ribbon markers, which seems to be standard with the TBS. This is a beautiful pocket-sized edition of the King James Version. After all these years, it still smells great.

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Above: The New Brevier Reference Bible. 

The features enrich when you step up to the New Brevier, which adds center column references, chapter summaries, and the self-pronouncing feature I've never been too fond of. Of the lot, this is my least favorite, perhaps because of the gilt bands on the spine, which is just a little much. Even so, the calfskin, vinyl-lined cover is nice, and the reading plan is there, along with the word list.

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Above: The Pitt Minion.

My favorite, though, is the Pitt Minion, perhaps because it was my first. Though Cambridge now offers a KJV Pitt Minion, they didn't at the time, and the they still don't offer one with two ribbons and art gilt edges so far as I know. In spite of the use its seen over the years, the Pitt Minion still looks great. The gilt has rubbed off the spine a bit, but that's all. 

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Above: The Textus Receptus.

I have to say, though, for sheer interest, the Textus Receptus beats them all. I wish someone would print an English New Testament this was, with beautiful, single-column paragraphed test and numbers out to the side.

THE WINDSOR TEXT
But this is more than just a history lesson. The Trinitarian Bible Society recently released its own text setting of the KJV, and when I heard I couldn't help getting excited. Given my background in design and typography, I've always daydreamed about doing my own layout, and of all the translations out there, I think the King James Version is most in need. There are plenty of text settings out there, but most of them make what has become, with declining literacy and changes in language, a somewhat difficult read much harder to understand. If the verse-per-line, dictionary-looking approach is tough on modern translations, it's that much harder on the venerable Authorized Version.

So I was looking forward to seeing what the TBS would come up with to keep interest in the King James Version alive. Unfortunately, the answer is not that much. The Windsor Text is yet another double column, verse-per-line setting of the KJV. The typeface is newer, the layout is a bit more austere and uncluttered, but that's about it.

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Above: The Windsor Text with Metrical Psalms.

There's one thing, though, that the Windsor Text has going for it — and it's a big thing. The edition pictured here sells for $32. That's just $8 more than the imitation leather edition. If you don't want the metrical psalms, you can shave another $2 off. We're talking about a sewn Bible bound in calfskin here, not a glue-job in a pleather wrapper. That's pretty … wild.

No, it's not as nice as the ones pictured above. The text block, printed and bound in Belarus, isn't close, really. But it still comes with two ribbons and the cover's not bad at all. In fact, I like it. At this price, it's hard not to, because it puts all those "genuine leather" covers out there selling for $50 or more to shame. By those standards, it's luxurious.

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Above: The type up close.

Let's start with my gripe about the insides, though. The font choice is nice, and there are moments (for example, on the various title pages) where the typography has a certain elegance. But what an opportunity was missed here when it comes to readability. Imagine a paragraphed KJV similar to Cambridge's New Paragraph Bible, only in a handy size like this. A single text column, or even two but with a paragraphed text, would have been such an improvement. 

By the way, the TBS does offer (or at least, they did) a single column, paragraphed KJV New Testament in paperback. Anyone doubting the efficacy of the format should compare the readability of that New Testament to pretty much any other KJV setting in the world.

I know it may not seem like a big deal if you've already written the KJV off, if you're accustomed to thinking of it as a cultural artifact or the leather-clad thumping club of our worst nature. But if, like me, you still love this translation, if you worry that antiquated design choices are making it increasingly less accessible to the unmotivated reader, then a miss like this can't help but smart. Still, I don't want to overdo it. For what it is, the Windsor Text is cleanly executed. Here are a couple of looks inside:

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But the real story is the fact that it's possible to offer a calfskin-bound Bible for $32. Stop and think about that. I realize there's a difference between $32 and, say, $5, but that price should at least shake up your certainty that "outreach" editions have to be shoddy pieces of self-destructing pulp. Believe me, if the potential of leather-like polyurethane to reinvigorate the bottom end of the market can get me excited (even if its mostly wasted on abominable multi-color eyesores), the potential of inexpensive calfskin to do the same is much greater. The designers at TBS could have chosen to set the Bible in cursive script and I'd still like this edition for that reason alone.

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Above: Your eyes do not deceive you. That says "calfskin."

The cover isn't some low grade, icky calfskin, either, if such a thing exists. It's pleasant to touch. Not as nice as the calfskin covers above, the surface is matte and grainy, resembling Cambridge's current French Morocco. I haven't put it through any abuse, but it feels quite durable. The raised bands on the spine are a nice touch, too. There's nothing cheap about this cover at all. 

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There's something else about the Windsor Text I really appreciate, which is the inclusion of the oft-omitted preface to the KJV, called "The Translators to the Reader." It's a tragedy that every edition of the KJV isn't required to include this document, because in addition to offering a very interesting portrait of the translators' work, it is an antidote to some of the extreme ideas that have been championed in their name over the past hundred years. 

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Above: An Answer to the Imputation of Our Adversaries, then and now: "…we affirm and avow, 
that the very meanest translation of the Bible in English … containeth the Word of God, 
nay, is the Word of God."

And while the biblical text might still be laid out like a reference work instead of a book for reading, the Windsor Text also includes something no Bible should be without, a reading plan. How difficult is it, really, to include such a help, especially in Bibles that offer so many other features of less certain value? 

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Above: Thumbs up for the inclusion of a reading plan — or scheme, as they say in the UK.

I promised to return to the metrical psalms, so let's do it. This copy of the Windsor Text includes the 1650 Scottish Psalter — i.e., the book of psalms re-arranged in meter for singing. Yes, singing. Odd as it may seem to us today, living in an age which has once again forgotten psalmody, there is a literal songbook in the Bible, not just a metaphorical one. I realize there aren't many churches anymore that make use of the psalter in this form, which limits the practical value of having the metrical psalms in back, but on principle I insisted on this edition because I love the idea. I've written elsewhere about my frustration with the paucity of psalters out there, so I won't belabor the point here. 
If nothing else, I hope this will balance the impression given by my zeal for abandoning bad idea from the past like verse-per-line settings and double columns that I oppose thing just because they're from the past. Far from it. That's a mark in their favor, in my book, especially if, like the metrical psalms, the idea happens to be superb.

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Above: A great idea, and also an example of an instance 
where the Windsor Text's typography shines.
The final verdict? With the Windsor Text in calfskin, you get more than what you pay for, which might make you wonder why you so often pay more for less. No, the interior design doesn't break any new ground, but it includes "The Translators to the Reader," a reading plan, and (if you opt for them) the metrical psalms, and there aren't many KJVs out there that can say as much.

I don't know how they do it. Perhaps it's a testament to the triumph of zeal over profit. But I'm glad they do, and wish them all the best. If you like the King James Version and haven't checked out what the Trinitarian Bible Society has to offer, you don't know what you're missing.
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100 Comments on “Trinitarian Bible Society KJV (Various)

  1. Wow! Just as I was looking for a Greek NT Bible…here comes my ANSWER! Thanks Mark!

      • From the Trinitarian Bible Society website: Many Bible publishers today distribute red-letter Bibles, with the words of our Saviour printed in red (or some other colour) while the rest of the text is in black. The Society holds to the position that all Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is all equally important, and that by the use of different colour text, the impression is given that some parts of Scripture are more important than others. Furthermore, it is very interpretative. In some passages we are unsure how much was spoken by Jesus. For example, in John 3 Jesus is conversing with Nicodemus. We know that Jesus is speaking in verses 10 to 13, but do His words continue to verse 15, or to verse 17, or to verse 21? In addition, should the words of the pre-incarnate Christ be included, or His words in Revelation? For these reasons we distribute only black-letter Bibles.

  2. Mark…Some of the TBS versions that you spoke of as no longer being available can be found at Bible Truth Publishers.

  3. Mark…Perhaps I spoke a little hastily. BTP only has the Royal Ruby, and then none in calfskin. They also carry two Pitt Minions and several Concord Reference versions.

  4. Allan’s also carries some TBS Ruby editions under their Cambridge text bible heading.

  5. I bought the hardcover Greek NT from TBS while in seminary. I’m excited to see that this edition is now available in calfskin!

    • It was available in calfskin back in the early 90’s when I bought mine. Not sure it’s available anymore.

  6. I just ordered the calfskin Windsor with Metrical Psalms from TBS. Even though I am firmly in the ESV camp, I still appreciate the KJV, and plan to devote 2011 to it, doing all of my devotional reading and preaching from it.
    I normally carry my Pitt Minion ESV, a TBS hard cover “Psalms of David in Metre” and “The Valley of Vision” in my briefcase for my personal devotions. Having the metrical Psalms bound with the Bible will cut down on the number of volumes I carry in 2011.

  7. I ordered the calfskin Windsor a while back and like it very much. I think the overall quality of the cover is higher than the more expensive French Morocco Cambridge edition I have, and the crisp new typesetting is a major benefit. The metrical psalms are an unusual, but useful, feature.
    To my mind, the only thing missing–aside from a couple more ribbons, which is the case with virtually every bible–would be the addition of the KJV Apocrypha. But given TBS’s theological convictions, I don’t think that will happen anytime soon…
    At any rate, I heartily recommend the Windsor text addition to anyone looking for a quality KJV bible at an affordable price.

  8. By the way, it looks like they do have a paragraphed paperback New Testament still available. And it’s only $4, so I just might bite.

  9. After hunting around the TBS site, I know they have similar editions still available (at least, listed — if you add some to the cart, it doesn’t seem to work) but since some time has passed, the photos are different, and I can’t confirm that what you’d get today is what is pictured, I felt like it was better to err on the safe side. If anybody places an order and does get a matching copy, please let us know.
    Brian, I think you’re right about the theological convictions — doesn’t the TBS exists *because* the Bible Society started included the Apocrypha?

  10. Yes, according to Wikipedia, TBS split from The British and Foreign Bible Society because of the:
    * Inclusion of the Biblical Apocrypha in some Bibles published in Europe
    * Inclusion of adherents of Unitarianism as officers in the Society, and refusal of the Society to open meetings with prayer.

    I’m sympathetic to the latter point, but the Apocrypha was in the original 1611 edition and for a long while thereafter–not least, I suspect, because the Book of Common Prayer daily office lectionaries include a few readings from it. I don’t understand how one can view the KJV as the ne plus ultra of translations while disregarding the intent of the translators on which books to include, but I’m still grateful that TBS makes such excellent additions available and affordable.

    • Yes the Apocrypha was in the 1611 King James Bible, but was placed between the Testaments not interspersed in the Old Testament!
      my personal convictions are that it should be left out.

      I agree that TBS should add a paragraph KJB to their inventory,
      the easiest route to take would be to rebadge the Cambridge Clarion, Ideally have something like Allan’s Side Column Reference Edition in KJB as well, both being Reference Bibles, & add a non-reference KJB “Readers” as well for the Trifecta!

  11. FWIW, the rumor has been put out on the internet that the Greek NT provided by the TBS as the “Textus Receptus” is actually simply one which has been “back-translated” from the English of the KJV(!), and would not therefore represent any actual Greek NT text extant.
    It would seem that anyone thinking of ordering the Greek NT from the TBS would therefore do well to inquire of them directly as to their source for this document.
    Just a thought for those who might be interested.

  12. Too late for me ๐Ÿ™
    But since I am only starting to learn Koine Greek, this direct “back-translation”, “word-for-word” could actually be more “useful” to my study! LOL!

  13. Back translation is a term that means the editors of the particular edition of the greek text are using the english text to determine the text critical decisions of the translators. It does not mean that someone sat down with an english text and translated it into greek.
    BTW, none of the standard greek nt’s (TR, Nestle/Aland, Westcott/Hort, etc…) represents an actual manuscript of the greek text. rather, they represent a combination of the best manuscripts available. Even the TR is a combination of 6-7 manuscripts.

  14. Mark…Don’t know if you noticed it, but if you get the Windsor w/o the metrical Psalms in either plain or indexed, it’s available in RED! FYI

  15. “… a single column, paragraphed KJV New Testament in paperback. Anyone doubting the efficacy of the format… ”
    I’ve been there, done that. I find that sort of bible totally unreadable because the numbers stuck in the middle of the text are distracting. Also it is easier to get lost and jump to the wrong line with the longer, single paragraph lines.
    Also, there were no paragraphs in the original Greek, so I’m not interested in emphasizing those artificial, man-made divisions. The original 1611 KJV, the 1769 KJV revision, and the 1873 KJV revision all break the paragraphs in different places.
    When I was younger I used to only read paragraph bibles. Now I would never use one.

  16. Siegfried,
    The original Greek manuscripts also had no verse or chapter divisions. Or spaces between words, for that matter. Does the Bible you use have any of these? Using a single column, paragraphed format is not about artificial, man-made divisions; it is about presenting the text of the Bible in such a way as to enhance the reading experience.
    I agree that there are paragraph Bibles out there that are unreadable. And as Mark has mentioned on various occasions, it is not a panacea. Nevertheless, some of his posts demonstrate that there a few editions out there that have executed a paragraph format well. It may not be everyone’s cup of tea, but there are many of us who are hoping that more and more Bible publishers learn from these editions and continue to develop this option.

  17. A few questions for Mark about the Windsor:
    What are the dimensions?
    Is it red-letter or black-letter?
    Does it have the self-pronouncing features?
    I’ve never had a nice edition of the KJV, but this one really appeals to me.

  18. Wow! My TBS Windsor arrived yesterday, total of 4 days from order, including a weekend. It is black letter, and even though it is not in front of me right now it is pretty much “standard size” as far as Bibles go. Larger than a Pitt Minion, but smaller than any study Bible. Just about the right size to haul to church. I find the font very pleasant and readable.
    This is the nicest Bible that I have ever purchased at this price point.

  19. I forgot to mention. It is not self-pronouncing but has a pronunciation guide in the back.

  20. Thanks for the info, Jerry. That’s just what I was looking for.

  21. I received some TBS bibles today, Tuesday, after ordering Sunday night.
    All of these are inexpensive hard cover without cross references, not the leather stuff which is usually posted here:
    31A – Royal Ruby black vinyl hard cover. Nice pocket bible, around 4″ X 5 5/8″ X 1″. Stays open flat on the table except very near the front and back, maybe 100 pages. Excellent inner margins; no problem reading. Font is small but readable; no smudging. Verse format with italics, paragraph symbols, normal = not self-pronouncing text, and black letter. Some bleed through but it doesn’t interfere with reading; paper is thick, not onion paper. Standard 1769 KJV bible. $7.55
    25A – Windsor black hard cover. Nice mid-size bible, around 5 1/2″ X 7 3/4″ X 1 1/4″. Stays open flat. Superb inner margins. Font is excellent, dark, and laid out with a lot of space. Verse format with italics, paragraph symbols, normal = not self-pronouncing text, and black letter. Bleed through is annoying in some spots but doesn’t interfere with reading. Paper is thick, not onion paper. Standard 1769 KJV bible. $10.00
    GRNT1 – Greek (ancient) Textus Receptus New Testament, around 5″ by 8″. Blue hardcover. Won’t open flat in any position — has to be held open. Scrivener’s NT according to the Authorized Version (KJV). Inner margins good but not great; readable but tighter than I would like. Text is dark and good, with breathing marks and accents. Verse numbers are off to the side, not imbedded in the text at all. Thick white paper, not onion paper, with some bleed through that doesn’t interfere with reading. No references or apparatus. $10.00

  22. I emailed the TBS folks in view of the question regarding the source of their Textus Receptus (the internet bulletin board rumor as I posted above), and received a reply that it represents the 1598 edition of Stephanus, so it IS a copy of an actual extant manuscript, NOT simply “back-translated from the KJV”.

  23. The TBS Greek NT, which I have sitting next to me, is neither “a copy of an actual extant manuscript” or “back-translated from the KJV”.
    It is created from multiple ancient Greek manuscripts and is called “The New Testament in the Original Greek according to the text followed in the Authorized Version”. It was translated by F. Scrivener in 1894 and 1902, and basically follows Beza’s 1598 Textus Receptus.
    The Textus Receptus is several related editions which are a composite of the “Byzantine” manuscripts which are the vast majority of all Greek NT manuscripts which we have.
    Lots of information, and the NT itself is available via web search.

  24. Here’s a little more information on the TBS Greek NT. It definitely does NOT “back-translate” from any language other than Greek. As the translator, Scrivener, said:
    The text of Beza 1598 has been left unchanged when the variation from it made in the Authorised Version is not countenanced by any earlier edition of the Greek.”
    The TBS NT is exactly the Beza 1598 edition except in about 190 cases which are documented in the appendix of the original Scrivener NT. (That appendix is not in the TBS NT.) In each case the translator lists the GREEK editions which had the alternate Greek words.
    This is verified by Dr. Robinson, a professor of Greek at Southeastern Seminary, who wrote:
    “In a few places, the Authorized Version [KJV] apparently drew from Latin Vulgate readings and its English text fails to conform to ANY early printed Greek text. Scrivener chose in such cases to follow the nearest possible printed Greek text but did NOT attempt to retranslate from the Latin back into the Greek (as Erasmus has been criticized for doing in the Apocalypse).”
    http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/software/mac/online.bible/TR-BYZ-N26_TR_Intro.txt

  25. Do they still produce the Emerald edition?
    Is that available in any other translations?

  26. I just received two Trinitarian Bibles: Windor Calfskin and the Calfskin with zipper. I have to say, Mark, that these are amazing Bibles for the price! The text is just right (9.6), and the paper they use is not too thin. I compared it to a Cambridge Standard Text, and the size of the two are the same, the text in the Cambridge is a little bigger, but for the price you can get two for one.
    Great review on this. Thanks!

  27. Mark…I think you’re going to do the same thing for Trinitarian that you did for Allan’s. These guys ought pay you a commission!

  28. I received two more Trinitarian bibles. The more interesting one is 7S/R, a “Pocket Reference Bible”. The interesting thing, which the TBS web site doesn’t mention, is that it is a miniature Pitt Minion. It has the full Pitt cross references in a very small size. The center margins are good, but there is significant bleed through. The bible is still readable, but I can’t imagine anyone would read anything this tiny for long, unless they were traveling and had nothing else. For that reason, I would think most people would want the “vinyl paperback” $7.50 edition which I purchased, rather than paying $40+ for an extremely tiny calfskin which would rarely be used.
    The other item is GRNT2, a calfskin version of the Green New Testament (GRNT1) which I mentioned in a prior comment. As far as I can tell, the two are exactly the same except for the calfskin cover, a ribbon, and gold edges in the higher priced edition. The paper seems the same, closer to regular paper than onion skin, with little bleed through. I’m not an expert in leather, but this doesn’t seem like luxury to me, not like Allan stuff. This raises the question of whether it is really worth it to pay nearly five times as much more for the calfskin version. I think it would only be worth it for someone who would read the TR every day.

  29. This little Bible looks really nice, I’m happy it’s not a paragraphed KJV, after reading this post I’m thinking about ordering three with metrical psalms for my children.
    Thank you for the informative blog!

  30. I purchased the Windsor after reading this review – it looked too good to pass up!
    I got it in the mail about a month ago and have been taking it with me in my messenger bag to school/work daily.
    Several things I’ve noticed:
    1) Though it isn’t a single column, paragraphed layout, nonetheless I am still quite impressed with how much easier on the eyes it is than the other AV’s I’ve used.
    2) The size is perfect, to me anyway. It is big enough that the text doesn’t require me to squint (I am 25, and not being able to see the text isn’t a big issue, but still…small fonts can give me a headache after a while). It fits in my bag well. It isn’t really limp, but liquid enough in my hand.
    3) Simplicity and elegance. From afar, it doesn’t look like much. But up close, in your hand, it feels and looks elegant and un-flashy. I love how understated everything about it is. It’s a great antidote to the frills of modern Bible binding.
    4) A couple of cons: The ribbons have begun to fray a bit. I’ve noticed 2 typos already. When it came, the ribbon was stuck to a page in Mark ch 12 and when I tried to take it off it took some of the printing with it. Careful when you unbox this thing. And, there’s some smudging of the text in a few places (though not unreadable).
    I’m amazed at how cheap all these bindings are! I’ll be purchasing some of the hardbacks (sewn binding and references for 14.50??) for friends and likely the Pitt Minion or a classic reference in calfskin. With the Metrical Psalms of course! They are a delight to read.
    Thanks Mark, for showing us the great work of TBS. I’ll be sure to patronize them often.

  31. Devin, Try putting a tiny bit of clear fingernail polish on the tip ends of the ribbons and they shouldn’t fray any more (clip off the stray strings first).
    Also, where did you find typos? I’ve already read all of the way thru my Windsor Text and was amazed that I didn’t find a single typo. I did find a small print smudge in Genesis but it wasn’t bad.
    I’ve used TBS Bibles exclusively for years and the Windsor Text is my new favorite. I love the clear, clean text with no distractions.
    FYI-TBS plans to have a brand new reference edition released in time for the 400th anniversary of the AV in 2011. It will, like the Windsor Text, be their own layout of the AV.

  32. I case anyone reads this old thread, I discovered that this site has the TBS Pitt Minion at 50% off their $63.75 CAN list price:
    http://www.bibles.qc.ca/bp_cart/en-ca/dept_35.html
    Sadly, they’re going out of business. It comes to about $42 USD with shippin, which is a good discount off of ordering direct from TBS.

  33. Can you give me one, ie. free of charge? please I love to read and learn the KJV

  34. Can anyone donate? Here is my complete address:
    Frederick L. Langit
    180 Nilombot, Mapandan
    Pangasinan 2429 PHILIPPINES
    Thank you and God bless!!!

  35. I have a brother-in-law who goes to a King James only church and uses the KJV. I just bought him a Windsor Bible through TBS as a Christmas gift. Man, I can’t wait to see this when it comes in the mail! It sure looks beautiful in your photos and on the TBS web site. And all the goodies- the epistle dedicatory, the note to the reader, the word list, and–the real classy touch–the metrical Psalter! This really is a classy looking little Bible! And all for only $41 after shipping! Phenomenal!
    I told my wife that I might like to get a copy of this for Christmas next year, so I could read a quality KJV in commemoration of the 400th anniversary.
    Thanks again, Mark, for your hard work. I wouldn’t have bought something like this sigth unseen without your commendation.
    BTW, I’m looking forward to seeing

  36. My wife gave me a TBS metrical psalms (ISBN 1862280967) for Christmas. The hardcover binding is superb in it as well. And it’s a $7 volume!

  37. I just received my Calfskin Royal Ruby with thumb-index and I am incredibly impressed! Thanks so much for recommending TBS and for you reviews. Ever since I ordered the TNIV from Allan, I’ve been craving another tiny Bible and the Ruby is perfect. Thanks again!

  38. Hey Mark, I just recently purchased a TBS pitt minion from R.L Alan for about 60$ as far as I know there still available. kind regards Aaron

  39. Has anyone seen one of the TBS tall, narrow New Testaments that are described as PARAGRAPHED kjv’s? Are they single- or double-column? They’re described as 3.5 x 7″, so at 8points, would be lovely to read in single-column but in double-column would have too few words-per-line to flow nicely, .
    They’re given ISBN’s of
    978-1862283633 brown quality hardcover
    978-1862283626 blue quality hardcover
    978-1862283619 black quality hardcover
    and a new one just called Product 65E in a 2-tone “Trutone”.
    A page sample would be ideal but just knowing if they’re 1 or 2 column would seal the deal for me.

  40. Thanks, Mark. That’s exactly what I wanted to hear. The paperback version you reviewed leaves me cold. But if the TBS Slimline is single-column and paragraphed and nearly the same dimensions, it would be very similar indeed to the NRSV Slimline but in KJV.

  41. I finally ordered my new KJV today to replace the one my grandmother gave me in 1967 (not a typo; it was 43 years ago, and the cover fell off finally). I chose the Windsor calfskin after reading this review.
    I had been set on buying either Cambridge New Paragraph Bible of the soon to be released Nelson single column, but after seeing a paragraph Bible in person yesterday I realized that I personally prefer a generous sized double column format like this one (my eyes don’t want to travel so far back to the beginning of the next line). The metrical Psalms, archaic word list, reading schedule, all black text and absence of self pronouncing words made this too good to pass up (plus the amazing price). Plus, they’ve obviously got their heart in this work.
    Thanks!

  42. Hi Mark:
    Can you tell me which Bible has a bigger, more readable print? (TBS KJV Pitt Minion or Allan’s KJV Ruby) Thanks for your help!

  43. Timothy – In my opinion the TBS Pitt Minion has slightly larger type, but the type in the Ruby is very clear. The Ruby has better binding and also has a great concordance – worth considering especially in the Highland Goatskin.

  44. Thanks for your quick reply Mark! I am also wondering if you will do any reviews on Local Church Bible Publisher’s Bibles?

  45. My TBS Windsor Calfskin Bible arrived yesterday here in Tokyo within 2 weeks of placing the order. I put it through the paces with evening and morning prayer with my 1662 Cambridge Book of Common Prayer (which I also discovered on this blog) before reporting my impressions of it. I am very happy with this Bible. In contrast to many who frequent this blog, I prefer to have just one Bible for all occasions, and this makes a great main Bible.
    The font is very nice, and slightly condensed (for example, the o’s are ovals rather than circles) so more words can fit on a line. Also, the columns are wider than most Bibles since there is no center reference column. This reduces the need for distracting hyphenation.
    As I mentioned before, I was looking at the single column Nelson Bible or the Cambridge paragraph Bible, but discovered that those lines of text were too long for my eyes to travel back and forth, and that a generous double column format such as this Windsor Text Bible is ideal for me. Maybe all those years of reading a newspaper have conditioned me.
    I was concerned when I read reviews that mentioned bleed through, which in my experience with fountain pens conjures up the image of ink physically bleeding through the paper. There is no such bleed through at all but there is a slight “ghosting” where the letters on the other side of the page are visible. It is not as noticeable as most other Bibles I have tried, and I can live with it. If I lift the page and allow a layer of air between pages, most of the ghosting vanishes. I wish all Bible pages were as opaque as my BCP pages.
    I love the metrical Psalms and have already sung several that occur regularly in the Daily Office (my family probably wonders about the strange noises coming from behind closed doors). So far I have resisted the urge to sing the Psalms to the tune of Gilligan’s Island which happens to be in Common Meter…
    I am especially thrilled by the Bible reading chart because it solves a problem that has vexed me for a long time. The daily lectionary in the 1662 BCP has lots of gaps in the Old Testament readings, sometimes skipping many chapters at a time. I had been searching for a daily chart that listed only the OT readings — but without the Psalms since the BCP treats them separately (all 150 Psalms get read every month!). This Bible chart is the only one I’ve found that does exactly that, keeping all the OT readings in the left column, and lumping the Psalms and NT readings together in a separate column, so I can refer to this chart in my Bible for the OT readings, and refer to the BCP chart for my NT readings. My problem has been solved without the need to carry an extra chart, just my BCP and Bible.
    BTW I discovered that this Bible reading chart was originally created by Robert Murray Mโ€˜Cheyne in the 19th century and is available on some web sites as a free PDF.
    I also like the word list in the back but wish it had a lot more words; I usually end up resorting to a dictionary. But I have never seriously read the KJV until now (being a NASB/NIV reader all these years) and I imagine I won’t need the word list after I have read through the KJV once, and all those old words become old friends.
    My claim to be a “one Bible” guy is being seriously threatened as I am now lusting after the Royal Ruby edition as a small Bible I can take to church on Sundays (I take the subway to Church and try to keep my baggage small and light). I’m wondering what the point size of the Royal Ruby text is. Can anyone tell me? Is it a new font like the Windsor or taken from an older edition?

  46. I forgot to mention about the ribbons. In the past I always coated the ends with clear nail polish to keep them from fraying, but now many book ribbons are synthetic, so all you need is to wave a lighter close to the end just enough to melt it and seal it. It worked well with these ribbons (you never know until you try).

  47. I’m hesitant to post a new message because this makes three in a row for me and makes me look like a Blog Hog, but I have to post this great discovery. I was looking for the TBS Calfskin Ruby without the thumb indexes but TBS no longer lists them on their web site. So I found something similar on the Allan site and ordered it instead (http://www.bibles-direct.co.uk/products/view.php?id=88&c=50). The price was incredible, and shipping was free even around the world to me in Tokyo. I don’t know how they can do this, but it arrived a few minutes ago with no extra costs to me. And the best part is that it turned out to be the TBS Ruby Calfskin with no thumb indexes after all! In a very short time I have become dependent on the TBS Bible word list and the reading chart in the back, and this little Bible has them as well — plus a few pages of interesting old line drawings of objects found in the Bible such as plants and coins. I’m tickled pink and thought I’d pass this onto y’all.Now I have my traveling Bible, even if my traveling is usually limited to Church and back.

  48. I just ordered the Calfskin Concord and the Windsor Bible, and also a Russian N.T. I am excited to receive them. With shipping it was only around $150, two quality Bibles and a helpful Russian N.T. for below the cost of my Cambridge goatskin Concord. Wondeful!

  49. Has anyone ordered the Calfskin Windsor in red? The picture makes it look more like a maroon or brick red, which I’d prefer, instead of the brighter reds, which most folks here prefer. I’m trying to match a maroon leather hymnal I use a lot and am a little concerned about clashing shades of red. The shade in the picture looks perfect but red is notoriously hard to photograph.

  50. Does anyone know what sort of lining the Windsor text (Calfskin edition) or Trinitarian Bible Society’s Classic Reference Calfskin edition has?

  51. Anthony, the lining in my windsor looks and feels like real leather, but it is hard to know for certain.

  52. Does anyone have a TBS Windsor with zipper, ISBN 9781862283411 ?
    Some sites say the zipper model has the metrical Psalms, whereas the TBS site is silent on the matter, implying it has the standard KJV text. Can someone verify for me?

  53. Just ordered my Windsor text. I believe strongly in buying quality Bibles. They make perfect gifts as well. And then when you tell them a little historical story, they appreciate it rem more. My heart was saddened when I saw the Cambridge Pitt Minion Calfskin/Goatskin in KJV was out of print, and has been since January 2009. But yet all the Other versions of the Pitt are in print in all leathers? Sad. But I’m excited to see the new Windsor. I have owned 1 Cambridge Pitt Minion French Mor KJV, and have had two TBS Pitt Minions and gave 1 away. I have also given away my Cambridge Pitt. So I have still held on to my TBS Pitt. But I dot want to wear it out since I speak in occasions, and it makes for a wonderful preachig Bible. So I want to get a Windsor to wear out. I think it will
    do well. Praise God for quality Bibles.

  54. I just got the Windsor bible with metrical psalms. It is a very nice bible for $32. The only thing that I don’t like is that the end papers (lining) are white paper. They aren’t even vinyl. That wouldn’t be such a bummer if I didn’t see pictures on this page of them lined in black. Black paper would have even been better.
    The text block on mine is printed in the Netherlands (not Belarus like Mark’s). It is actually very nice paper with less bleed through than most of my other bibles.
    The cover is pretty stiff, but I don’t expect every bible to be super flexible like my Highland goatskin Allan bibles.
    Overall, it’s a very nice bible for $32. I just wish they had slightly nicer end papers.

  55. John, I’d contact TBS. White end papers doesn’t sound right.
    Ironic that JMB’s picture that proves it is called “your eyes do not deceive…”

  56. I contacted TBS. Turns out that the white endpaper is a result of miscommuncation between TBS and Jongbloed printers. Apparently, while black end papers in a black leather bible would be the norm in the US and the UK, continental Europe uses white. Jongloed went with their default. They offered me a full refund or exchange, but said it would be a little while before they had Windors with Metrical Psalms with black endpapers.
    The good news is that Jongbloed is doing the text block. They do the text block for some of the Allan KJV’s. The paper is very opaque and the printing is perfect. It’s very nice in my opinion. IF you want a Windsor with Metrical Psalms, you might want to wait a while (don’t know how long) for them to come in with the usual black end papers.

  57. John, another option you could consider is to buy a normal Windsor (which presumably has the normal black endpapers) and get a copy of the TBS metrical psalms in their standalone black hardbound volume. It’s quality binding with large font and single-column text.

  58. I’ll have to take a look at the TBS metrical psalms book. I’m really liking the metrical psalms in the back of the Windsor.

  59. Re. my June 18 post, I’m proud to say I’m agnostic no more with respect to the zipper and metrical psalms question. From the chart on the back of the slip-box my new zippered Windsor came in, there’s only one zippered Windsor model, and it’s the black calfskin edition I got. (Hey, metrical psalms belong in hymnals, can I get a witness?)
    Seriously, to echo just about everyone’s comments, the Windsor is great. It’s smaller than I thought, truly sub-octavo at 5″ x 7.5″ trim (paper) size but the typeface is gorgeous, paper is pleasant (although you do have to lift most pages to keep ghosting from driving you nuts) and the traditional layout (topic headings per page only in italics across the top) is just what I wanted. The zipper on this one is soft so doesn’t scratch you when paging through it and I’ve had no problem with it pulling your finger hairs, which might not exactly sound like a real cross to bear but just thought I’d mention it if you have less than pleasant memories of the zippered Bibles of thy youth.
    In terms of nice-quality-though-bargain-priced KJVs, the calfskin Windsors could be compared to some of the text-only editions of “Local Church Bible Publishers”. Does anyone have both that could weigh in? The pictures some have posted on the FB page don’t seem to jive with what’s described on the Church webpage (e.g. are the “initials”–first letter of each chapter–2 lines in height or 3?) so first-hand knowledge would be valuable. Also, I suspect the Church editions are side-sewn instead of Smyth-sewn, which explains both price and why certain exuberant posters can claim they outlast 12 Cambridge Bibles, but I’d like to know for sure.

  60. Oh, and by the way, nice heavy BLACK endpapers in my new zippered calfskin Windsor from deepershopping.com

  61. I love the Windsor. My copy (black calf w/metrical psalms) doesn’t have too much of a ghosting issue. I’ve almost read it cover to cover now and cover is breaking in very nicely.

  62. Thanks for your recommendation! Due to one of the commentators, I found a nice TBS Personal Concord edition on the Alan website. I love the fact that it came in 13 days, all the way to Beijing, China! I am so tempted to buy more Bibles from Alan. The only thing I have noticed over the past two weeks is that it hasn’t softened up yet, although I use it every day. I use Professor Horner’s Bible reading plan. I hope it will become more supple with use.

  63. I know that TBS sells some Cambridge bibles (concord, pitt, ruby). Have they done the cameo before? I’m hoping they might make some cameos now that the cameo has come back.

  64. Just got my windsor text. Very nice. Seems to have clean printing throughout. Got it 25% off because it was open on their shelf! There is a typo in Jeremiah 41:13 in the phrase “Johanan e son of Kareah”, “t” and “h” are missing from the word “the”. They did tell me this before I bought the bible, and they also said it was correct in the royal ruby version however. I haven’t found any other typos listed anywhere, but someone here mentioned two? Any idea what they are?

  65. I’ll be returning the TBS Windsor Text Bible (25U) faster than you can say ‘Textus Receptus’.
    Page 300 of my Windsor Bible, the beginning of the Book of Ruth, was uncut, the paper ghosting is as bad as the Allan ESV Reader, and the “raised” spine was barely raised at all. But my biggest disappointment was the calfskin cover. I disagree with Mark’s positive assessment of it: the calfskin cover is quite stiff and not supple at all. It’s more like bonded leather. In fact, my Crossway ESV Wide Margin in TruTone has a much softer cover. Let me belabor the point, the Windsor is definitely the least flexible of all my calfskin Bibles.
    Yes, the Bible is attractively priced at $26 (or a few dollars more for metrical Psalms) and has several value features: gilt edges, sewn binding, a pronunciation guide and word list. But for an established publishing house like TBS whose history reaches back over 100 years, I’d expect a much better product regardless of cost. Regular trips to used book stores have yielded far better KJV riches for me in Holman, Oxford, and Cambridge bindings.
    Lesson learned: if I’m buying a standard format KJV Bible again, I’ll buy one that was published 25 years ago or earlier. And next time I won’t be wearing my Bad Idea Jeans.

  66. I’m happy with my Windsor. For it’s price it is very nice. Obviously, I’d take a $100 calfskin bible over this one in a second. One issue I see with TBS is that there seems to be a great deal of variation within a single product line. It all depends on which batch you get.

  67. My Windsor is more stiff than my wife’s thinline bonded leather bible, however I’m sure it will break in some after use. I personally find the quality of the leather very nice though. I seemed to have a consistent printing/binding/ghosting throughout. Perhaps there is variation… Here in my town, there are no leather bibles for less than $60-$80, so this is a great deal for me from what I’ve researched online (keeping in mind I preferred the text only aspect).
    Seeing as how I got mine for $22.50 I “really” can’t complain. ๐Ÿ™‚ The person at TBS had an “opened” but unused copy. She was very helpful in describing everything about it in detail for me. Good service. If only there were no typos it would be better, but not a big deal to me. I think I may get the royal ruby for a nice portable version…

  68. I’ve got to agree that I’ve found several flaws in the Windsor, but I’ve had it for a while (several months) and I can say that it does break in quite nicely, stays open easily at any page, and the flaws and price helped me get over the over-protective “new bible” syndrome.

  69. “price helped me get over the over-protective “new bible” syndrome”
    Ha! So that’s what I’m doing! ๐Ÿ™‚ Funny how things change once it’s broken in…

  70. I think that the Winsdor meets the “utility” needs of a bible binding (quality sewn binding and durable calfskin) at a price level that doesn’t afford “luxury”. It’s certainly not as nice as an Allan’s or Cambridge, but it does go to show you that a useable and durable (if not particularly luxurious) volume can be made, sold and distributed at a reasonable cost.
    With the economies of scale that a Nelson, Crossway, Zondervan etc. have availible to them compared to the relatively tiny TBS, it shouldn’t be hard to replicate a Winsdor type binding at a low price the market will bear for basic bibles.

  71. I hear you Ryan, but Nelson, Crossway, Zondervan etc have positioned themselves for a volume market, a market that really doesn’t know much about signatures and saddle-stitching. And if that market wants the product to just “follow along” for a couple dozen words per week, any binding will, quite frankly, suffice. It’s a business reality that a nice sewn binding costs more to produce. In a large competitive market, that doesn’t need any frills, the guy that doesn’t find the cheapest alternatives is going under.
    TBS is going after a more specialized market. One that I suspect reads whole chapters at a time. The more you interact with a product, the more you’ll notice the “extras”.

  72. I realize (and appreciate) the place of glued bindings and bonded/synthetic covers for a market that’s going to open them at maximum once a week (and that’s probably 75-90% of the market sadly), and there’s no reason to cut into profit margins by offering sewn bindings and budget calfskin to everyone.
    To me, the Winsdor is just a feasability study that verifies that it could be done, whether or not there’s a viable mass marketeting strategy for the bible equivalent of the Glock pistol (not cheap…but you don’t cry when you scratch it either) I don’t know.

  73. One small note worth mentioning – The products you recieve from TBS today are different from those pictured here in Mark’s blog. None of the TBS offering is available with art gilt pages anymore, only standard gilt. No ore red under gold from TBS. I also have noted a measurable difference in paper quality. I strongly disagree with the critism of the calf skin binding, I think it is fantastic.
    I have an older Windsor and newer one with out the red under gold page edges. The older one purchased about 8 years ago and the new 6 months ago. The quality is still fantastic for a $32 bible but has taken a decline in the 8 years between orders.

  74. Hello all,
    This is a great site and I have gained a vast amount of knowledge regarding fine quality Bibles. Would anyone know if any sellers stock the TBS Windsor with the Jongbloed text? I spoke with a nice person at TBS who informed me that all their current stock is from Belarus and they have experienced some problems with split leather bindings. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
    Thanks,
    Rob

  75. I purchased my first quality Bible a few years ago from TBS with a recommendation from a friend at church. It is the black calf-skin “Slimline”, with pages measuring around 7″ x 4.5″ x 3/4″, gilt edges, two marker ribbons, center cross-reference, word list, and reading chart. The only complaint I have was that the paper on the inside of both covers ripped at the fold shortly after I received it. Otherwise, I absolutely love this Bible. It is perfect for carrying to church.
    Unfortunately, I had it in a satchel bag that was left on the back of my car. It flew off on the highway and found a few hours later. The Bible survived. The bag and everything else in it was shredded. The cover is still in perfect condition, but the sewn binding began to come apart. I have continued to use it until now. The pages are now completely detached from the cover.
    I contacted TBS to order the exact same Bible because I had fallen in love with it. Sadly, they are not currently printing it with no word on when they might print again, even though it’s in their current catalog (6H). After reading this review of the Windsor and all of the positive comments, I think I might give it a try. It’s too bad it doesn’t have the center cross-reference.

  76. Another great value in KJV text bibles is the $30 Collins ISBN-13: 978-0007259762 . The leather has a more substantial grainy feel to it than the buttery goatskin on the TBS Windsor, and the cover is a little stiffer, although that can be “worked” to any level of flexibility you want. The binding is superb, the Smyth-sewing perfect, not too tight, not too loose. It’s about a half-inch smaller in width than the Windsor, and about a point smaller in typeface. Yes, I have to reach for my strongest reader glasses with it while the Windsor can be resolved with an intermediate pair, but even for weaker eyes it’s worth it due to the paper. Rev 22 ends at 1146 pages in the Collins and at 1253 in the Windsor, although the Collins is even a smidge thicker, proving the Collins has about 10% thicker paper, and what a difference that makes! The ghosting in the Collins is much better; I don’t even have to separate the pages to read it clearly. And the paper is perfectly flat and white, while the rippled edges of the Windsor, that many have commented upon, seems to be getting worse and worse on mine. It’s NON-pronouncing, maintains the original italics, and is all-black text but has no Apocrypha and no metrical psalms.
    And I’ll give an honorable mention to the Holman “hand size giant print” KJV, ISBN 978-1433601002. It’s $18 on Amazon but I got mine for $14 just a month ago from Walmart.com (the at-store pickup worked great) although they’re showing a $17 price now for the black color. Only a bonded leather cover at the under-$20 price-point, but it seems like it will wear well. And a nice sewn binding, very rare at this price point. (Zondervan and Hendrickson have a similar product, which appear to come from the same Chinese bindery, but they’re clearly glued and inflexible.) It has 12-point font (the Bible’s the only book in which that’s considered “giant print”) so it’s highly readable, even with the words of Christ in red. Hats off to Holman who appears to be the only one offering nice sewn bindings at <$20.

  77. please i wan to send me a holy bible with hard cover
    please send to the address below
    SHADRACK ACQUAH
    P.O.BOX 499
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  78. @ Bill. Ya know I thought it was just me that noticed Holman sews the bindings! I have the Hand Size KJV you mentioned & I love it!

  79. Mr. Bertrand,
    You wrote: “I wish someone would print an English New Testament this way, with beautiful, single-column paragraphed text and numbers out to the side.”
    The New English Bible is printed in such a format. Due to the translational philosophy, I would not recommend this version for study, but it can be quite pleasant for devotional use.

  80. Reading this post convinced me to buy a Windsor in the calfskin. It is really a simple beautiful copy of the Bible – and not by any means extravagant in price. This is the first time I have bought a real leather edition and although there are certainly others out there that are higher-end, this one has gone almost everywhere with me for the past 7 months and is holding up very nicely. The typeface is clean and bright and there is really nothing comparable to it at the local LifeWay stores in any translation. It has about 7-8 thick blank pages in it that are perfect for writing on. The “Translators to the Reader” is a much-needed inclusion. I just learned an interesting fact that all of the Biblical citations in that preface are quoted from the Geneva Bible. So, in this case I think that it lends integrity to the publisher to include this piece still in this edition.

  81. Brian, are your outer page edges “rippled” a bit, like in Mark’s picture of Psalm 90? All the earlier ones had that issue. Hoping a newer printing has corrected that.

  82. No – the pages are doing fine. I hold it a lot and the leather at the front edge is rippled a bit but that is not a big deal. Mine has no psalms. I did notice that mine doesn’t say “calfskin” on the inside anywhere but it is definitely not bonded leather or some other thing. I think that they just missed the gold stamping. Again, not a big deal.

  83. FYI – the TBS Royal Ruby with a zipper is great for keeping a few Gospel tracts handy (without losing them) and slipping it in your back pocket. Sometimes a big Bible is a bit intimidating to carry and the Ruby is perfect for outdoor evangelism.

  84. I ordered a Windsor Text with the Metrical Psalms this past Monday. I attempted to order it Sunday night, but even their online store is closed on Sundays. I like that. I hope to receive it sometime this week. I had been considering getting a KJV for a couple of weeks (I’ve never had a KJV beyond the Gideon NT I got in college) and on a whim used the handy old search function on this blog and saw this review. Can’t beat it for the price. I’ll post my thoughts on it when it gets here.

  85. I received my Windsor Text today and I am very happy with it. It is a good size and for the price I couldn’t be any happier. It says it is “Printed and bound in the Netherlands by Jongbloed.” Now I’m ready to dive in get acquainted with the KJV.

  86. RWB, I think you got one of the new (good) ones. My older Windsor says “printed and bound in Belarus” and although the paper isn’t bad, the Belarussian (?) ones seem to have had the edges cut with a dull blade so have ripply edges, particularly noticeable when open. Mark’s pictures show the problem well in on the outer edges of his 3 “open Windsor” pictures above. Can you comment on what your page edges are like when the volume is open flat?

  87. Bill, the pages when opened flat are straight, flat and crisp. There are a few differences I forgot to mention and the first is that there are no raised bands on the spine. There are bands, but not raised. The end pages (is that the correct term) are white instead of black to match the cover as well and the calfskin is also not quite as matte as the one in Marks picture, but still a very nice cover. All in all I am very happy with it.

  88. Thanks, RWB. I can take or leave the raised spine bands but there’s no substitute for quality paper.
    I’m considering getting a TBS Concord…anyone know if there’s a paper difference there to look out for, between either older or newer editions? I have an old Cambridge Concord with fantastic paper, but the cover’s coming off. Will I be disappointed in the TBS paper? The paper in my new Cambridge Text Bible is abysmal so am scared to take a chance on another new Cambridge.
    Or should I spend more and just re-cover my old India-paper Concord?

  89. Rev.Dr.M.VINOD BABU, ESHCOL, 87/1368/1/1 & 2, YELUKURU ESTATES, KURNOOL -518002, A.P. INDIA

    Greetings in His name.
    The Trinitarian Bible Society is imparting a lot of spiritual encouragement to all the people in the world. We have been praying for your ministry.

  90. Hi Steph from 7/22/11,
    Apparently Holman doesn’t sew ALL their low-cost bibles. I just got a Large Print Compact KJV (with end-of-verse refs) in a nice blue bonded leather from an on-line seller. Alas, the binding is glued.

  91. I know this is posting to an old review, but I just received my TBS Windsor Text KJV with Metrical Psalms in the back, and I’m very pleased with it. I got it from Evangelical Bible for $42.50. I’m fascinated that it includes the 1650 Scottish Psalter. The edition without it is about $6 less, and they also currently have the other editions (zip, burgundy, etc.) of the Windsor Text.

    Mine is printed and bound by Jongblood in the Netherlands. The paper is a pale creamy color and has almost no ghosting at all. The pages I’ve checked appear to be line matched, and the 9.6 pt. type is very readable even for my eyes. I like the clean layout and smaller size, 8″ x 5.5″ overall and about 1″ thick. This footprint has become my favorite size for a reading Bible.

    I included a request with my order for a Jongblood edition with black end papers, but they enclosed a note that says all their current stock that is printed in the Netherlands has the white end papers. They don’t look as strange as I expected, are European style, and I’m fine with them. This is a rather unique edition anyway!

    At the price, I’m happy with the calfskin cover, although it’s definitely not as nice as some calfskin, such as the ESV single column Heritage I got last week. (While a good value, that one was $109, not $42!) The Windsor’s calfskin is flexible but not supple, with a firmer texture and nice grain. It lies nicely in the hand without being too rigid, and looks and feels a little better than the “genuine” leathers. The Bible lies open nicely. For the price, this is an awesome edition and one that will encourage me to re-explore my childhood translation.

    Also, the typo that Sean mentioned in Jeremiah is correct now.

  92. Dear Sir/Madam
    This is Rev. Danilo E. Marata ministering the the church name Faith Baptist Church in the Philippines, (Caballero, St. Poblacion, San Fabian, Pangasinan. 2433.) requesting the Old and New Testament bible. use for our ministry here in the philippines. We have the bible ministry in the School, Hospital, Prison, Family Bible study. that we request to pls give us more bible in our ministry. Thank you very much

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