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June 25, 2012

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Chris B

I like the wider margins on top and below. They look like you could write notes in them no problem.

Mike

Any US seller of this work?

kyle

I have the older Cambridge version. I would purchase this in a second if they had the Revised Version featured with the KJV in the notes.

Ryan S.

This edition, while neat in and of itself (the defunct Dickson Study Bible does essentially the same thing), to me is like the TBS Windsor in that it proves what could be done with more mainstream publications.

I guess what I'm beginning to believe is that Jongbloed is really the gateway to quality bible production. While others (the Italian firm used for the Personal Sized NCPB and the ESV Single Column Legacy) are coming on strong, it seems like Jongbloed is at the top of the heap regardless of who contracts them.

The real question is, what keeps Crossway, Thomas Nelson, Zondervan and Foundation Publications, etc. from going to Jongbloed directly for some premium editions (or even Windsor-like productions)? If TBS, Crimond House, Cambridge, and Schuyler can make it work on larger and smaller scales, why can't anyone else seem to?

Certainly if Jongbloed (and other premium binders) could get some of the biggies interested, they could leverage volume for better pricing all around and we could minimize the poor paper issues that seem to abound.

Michael Winslow

Great review Mark as always. The now out-of-print Dickson Analytical Study Bible does what the Crimond House Two Version Bible does but only better. The RV variants are in the text itself next to the KJV translation. The Cambridge's KJV/RV Interlinear uses very small text for the KJV/RV comparions which makes the comparions difficult to read. The Dickson uses the same size text of the RV variant as the main text so that it's easy to read. I haven't seen the Crimond House Two Version Bible so I don't know about the text size but if one could find the Dickson Analytical (often copies are available on eBay - for a price!) I think that the Dickson does the job much better than the Crimond House bible. It's good to know that we have three options: The Crimond House, The Cambridge Interlinear, and the Dickson Analytical. Each provides a different format for KJV/RV comparisons and each will attract its own following.

Richard

Crazy question, but what is the need for an interlinear KJV/RV Bible? I mean...who consults the Revised Version and why? Wasn't the RV sort of the "acid wash jeans" of Bible translations--used and in style for maybe a year or so--slight exaggeration. Why not put out an "ASV/NASB" interlinear Bible or a New English Bible/Revised English Bible while we're at it. Seems to me each of these interlinear combinations would appeal to perhaps 5 or 10 people in the Bible purchasing world.

Benedict

Related question - in the Long Primer, you occasionally find marginal notes that say "read such-and-such", not as a variant reading for the KJV, but rather as a correction of the KJV. What is the source of that corrected reading? Is that the Revised Version?

Paul

thx for interesting review - the "RV" is another name for the (1901) ASV, right? I've become pretty impressed with the ASV using e-sword to compare with kjv and tyndale (another fav).

I'm going to search for where to buy this 2 version bible you reviewed.

Justin

Paul, the ASV is the Americanized version of the RV.

Martin Clay

I have a biography of WE Vine ( of the Expository Dictionary fame). He was given a copy of this Bible now published by Crimond House and the biography contains a facsimile of one page of his Bible. Every bit of white space is covered in tiny notes and annotations that he has made. An interesting example of a lifetime of labour.

bill

NB 40gsm paper is twice as thick as a more standard 20gsm bible paper. That' why it's so opaque. So a 1400-page Bible layout (which I suspect this is) will be pushing 2 inches thick instead of the under-1-inch thick "thinline" that the market appears to crave. It's really the most basic of design tradeoffs. But until it becomes obvious to publishers that their target customers value opaque paper over portability (read thinline editions), nothing will change, especially when so many of the premium binders use the same textblocks that the basic Trutone dimestore editions get.

I'm afraid I pretty much trust Market Forces and The Invisible Hand on this one. Bibles designed for the academic marketplace (Bible as Lit classes, critical studies etc.) are thick and readable because, well, because they're meant to be read. Bibles marketed to church-goers are trendy, thin, and quite UNreadable because they're meant as fashion accessories, or for the occasional "follow along with me" sort of textual interaction on a Sunday morning.

I wish I could be proven wrong, but if I'm wrong, these major Bible publishers are being run by pretty poor business people. And I rather doubt that.

Frissell

"If TBS, Crimond House, Cambridge, and Schuyler can make it work" why can't "Crossway, Thomas Nelson, Zondervan and Foundation Publications, etc.".

Because the former are British (or British influenced in the case of the Schuylers). Brits buy more books than Americans and have a tradition of supporting high-quality printing and book binding.

American publishers don't think their customers want or can tell the difference. But when you can buy a quality bible for less than 3 movie tickets, there's no excuse.

John

Interesting - I've been in this little bookshop many times and had no idea they had a "Publishing House"!!

Ryan S.

Bill,

Bible paper quality is not just a function of thickness, it's also a function of opacity and brightness (which I believe may be controlled by Titanium Dioxide levels...and that stuff is expensive) in the manufacture of the paper. Take a look at the Holman Large Print Ultrathin NKJV and see that a very thin page can be done with minimal ghosting...for $30.00 shipped to your door wrapped in "real" leather. It, like the TBS Windsor, is proof that it can be done...but for a couple of dollars/bible Nelson & Co. don't want to do it (usually).

The invisible hand is indeed active here though, in that there really are a lot of people who don't know/care about paper opacity...and they buy a lot of bibles. It really does make business sense to save a couple of dollars/bible in production if you can sell said bible for the same price as a "good" one.

What you often see today is a tendency to try to minimize bleed thru by increasing thickness rather than actually bumping up the quality of the paper.

A Simple Believer

I second the comment by Kyle: "I would purchase this in a second if they had the Revised Version featured with the KJV in the notes."

I had been using an online presentation of the Cambridge Interlinear Bible of 1906 for several years and have become a fan. I now own the most recent edition of the Interlinear Bible that has been published by Cambridge, which happens to be printed and bound in the Netherlands. It is very nice. I find myself preferring the RV for the Old Testament, and the KJV for the New Testament. The Interlinear Bible and the Bible of Kralice (rebound by Leonard's Book Restoration Station) are my constant reading companions.

The ASV is nearly identical with the RV, but an unfortunate (in my opinion) feature of the ASV is that the divine name of the Creator (the Tetragrammaton) is presented as Jehovah in the Old Testament, rather than LORD as it appears in the KJV. Interestingly the RV was the only authorized revision of the KJV, and was used as the basis for the JPS 1917 translation.

Michael Winslow

A Simple Believer: Where is the website that has the Cambridge Interlinear Bible on-line?

A Simple Believer

Hi Michael,

Here is the link:

http://archive.org/details/interlinearbibl01unkngoog

German translator perth

Great review by you Mark!Learning is my passion, as it is endless. I am thankful to the owner for such a great learning.

Tommy B.

I have a copy of the Crimond Two Version Bible and it's beautiful. I live in the US and had to purchase it from Canada. I have decided to stick with the ESV version for my Bible study, and I have other KJV Bibles to study from also. If anyone is interested in buying my copy of the "Two Version Bible", please contact me at Tmygun69@gmail.com
Please keep inquiries in the USA, as the shipping overseas is very high. I will, of course, send the Bible to the buyer first, so they can inspect it before sending payment. I've only owned it a short time, it is in pristine condition.
God Bless.

Steph

Tommy, your email address did not work. Do you have another? I am interested in this Bible.

Tommy

Please contact me at TomboNov@gmail.com about the Two Version Bible.
Thank you.
Tom

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